I'd like to see anyone putting variations of Dubs even close to what Mack does. Sure implying or giving the idea of it is a nice thing considering it's Cnc, but you're essentially degrading Mack's tricking in the way you talk about them. It's easier than Xspar yes. But it's also fucking more realistic, can you stuck in 2012 mindset fuckwadds fucking get it through your thick skulls. (Not mainly directed to you Epoch, but kinda at the same time)