Devil's advocate here,

Originally Posted by Breadbug View Post
incest is morally wrong because we as a group collectively decided it so. that is not to say that every group deems it unacceptable, and that is not to say that every individual within a group deems it unacceptable, but generally speaking incestuous acts have been frowned upon by the majority throughout modern history. "group" could be replaced with society, country, region, city, community, family, etc and this statement still holds true.

some factors as to whether or not a group deems something to be acceptable includes:
1.) the foundational values of the group at its conception (spiritually, morally, etc)
2.) whether or not consensus has shifted since foundation
3.) is the act necessary or justified to meet an end goal
4.) can cohesion be maintained while permitting the act at various capacities

What if the group is in the wrong? Homosexuality has been shunned by a majority for centuries, is this justified just because they formed a majority?

Originally Posted by Breadbug View Post
consider how various acts which you at the moment consider "good" or "bad" is viewed in a real or fictional setting. anyone can come up with arguments to justify any action, but whether or not it is moral is not up to you.

Are you getting at objective morality?

Originally Posted by Guard View Post
People just saying this is amoral because they were taught by universal ethics and by most of the religions (which is ridiculous in case of Ch, since a lot of bible characters had incest relations).

Like, 100 years ago being engaged with your cousin were absolutely normal.

In terms of genetics and breeding this is wrong because of degeneration.

I see a problem with protected sex realtions between family. Imagine, you are same age siblings having fun and stuff, but you know you wont be able to be a couple because of genetic thing, this can cause a trouble with finding an actual parter. like if you both love each other in that way, you'll both will struggle with creating a family since you're in love with other person. And there is also a problem of jelaousy

People can adopt if they want to form a family. Are you referring to a kind of jealousy that is unique to a situation like this? Please explain. I think most relationships have some form of jealousy in them.

Originally Posted by Enclave View Post
He gets this. Absolutely fucked up minded people think about these things. We're also in 2020, not 1720 lmao. Society has evolved past the barbaric practice of incest.

Do you have a logically sound reason to be so vehemently against incest?

Originally Posted by Enclave View Post
Incest is not mandatory for humanity to survive.

Literally no one in the history of the universe has claimed this to be true.

Originally Posted by Enclave View Post
Imagine bringing up this topic in school or at work. Great way to get everyone to hate you lmao.

A lot of things could make your peers hate you. Like telling them your politcal affiliation. I don't think political affiliation is immoral.
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Originally Posted by Enclave View Post
Oh yeah. Why don't YOU tell us what you support Moop? We're not your puppets in the comments of your thread. Let's see your teaching experience put to use here.


What does this even mean? Are you trying to find out what Moop's stance is? If so, he used the word 'disgusting' in his first post, making it pretty clear what his stance is.
Last edited by fudgiebalz; May 8, 2020 at 06:13 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
alright guy