Originally Posted by
Love
in my opinion, toribash is always trying to make new players come but the learning curve of the game is simply too big if they don't have something that makes them grind the game, what are those things?
-toribash content creation: a lot of the older players that we see now playing started toribash watching videos of old legends of the game and saw them as a role models to grind the game and get better, or had the weekly concon videos that he looked forward to appear so he would make a replay or complete a challenge, and clearly this has been missing for a while when concon stopped with TB related videos, when lesduncan stopped with the toribash competitive videos and right now i think toribash should try to bring more content creators to make events, share they're content on toribash discord/instagram to get others into getting back/stay playing the game.
-player groups: toribash used to have a lot of organizations for the different player groups to gather, talk, learn, teach that made a lot of players make new friendships get better at something they liked like making replays, forging flames, or even people that share that live in the same country and share the same mother lenguage, and sometimes i look now and i don't se those orgs and i feel thats a big reason that a lot of players decide to migrate to other games and leave toribash.
-role model players: when i look how most of the new players often don't keep playing, i think its mainly because they don't have a lot of legends, good players that keep playing the game, i'm not saying that there is no good players, but most of the legendary replaymakers/duelers/flame forgers/artists left the game mostly because the staff don't really listen to what those players want as a change or what should be reverted, so getting in touch and making events with those legends, for example, would be great so the newer player would learn more about toribash history and how some players made so much impact.
-ingame and forum events: nowadays i see a lot of etourneys and hotseats that players join everyday and a lot of events that seem like more of the same. Making less in-game events would be better in my opinion since playing the same kind of event everyday its kinda tiring, so making it 3/4 times a week would be good enough. The forum events like the head texture of the month thingy should have a dif kind of prizes (instead of TC + shiai and item make it a custom item for the event specifically) and maybe entrance fees so more TC can be sinked and making less events but with a variety fo theme like one Flame forger event, bring back old events like replay cup
staff and moderation: if you ask most of the older players that still plays toribash they probably feel that the staff most of the time don't listen to then while doing the decision making that lead to changes that make the game unenjoyable for a lot of them, like the market changes made a lot of marketers drift away form the game and now we can't buy certain items in the market since not a lot of players put their items up to sale and shiai tokens are easy to obtain so people rather wait to buy a full pack that makes using the market less useful and less enjoyable, so most of the time it feels like that the staff is filled with players that doesn't really understand as much flames like the flame forgers, the market like the marketers make changes that doesn't make a lot of sense, so in my opinion bringing back the orgs would help the staff so they could talk with people that know more about certain aspects of the game to see how they should change or if changing X or Y would help
thank you for your well thought-out post. it is definitely true that there is a lack of content for toribash on youtube, nowadays most people just stream or make tiktoks/reels about the game instead, which doesn't help show what the game is actually about. which is clicking balls. lesduncan was a huge part in my upbringing on toribash. I'm trying to see what i can do about the idea of TPL, see if there's any kind of fight-night or similar events i can do with this mod and other mods and improve the competitivity this game is lacking. i remember being a huge fan, and a huge fan of everyone that i'd see on those videos since they were all good players. i definitely want to see if it would be possible getting someone on the staff team or anyone in the community that would be interested in making some recordings of duels, event fights, stuff like that. for example endurance onslaught should be getting their games recorded, i think that would be fun.
there has been a giant lack of forum events, however since i've been in SMod i've been pushing ES to do more work and get some more events ready. there's a good few in the works right now and a replay making championship coming soon, ranked season 7 coming soon, ETC. i'd only like to ask for the communities patience as we roll these events out.
to your staff and moderation point, this is the point of the community outreach. i'm trying to fix the divide between staff and players and making any changes or ideas of changes known to the community so we can get their input.
if anyone here has any interest in doing some toribash recordings let me know ^^
EDIT: love regarding your market point;
i didn't respond last night because i was unsure of the statistics and if what you're saying is right or wrong. sir has given me some statistics of the last months of old market and first few months of new market. old markets best weeks regarding activity compared to new markets average, new market is 200% better. and that's with the lower active playercount. marketing is more active now, and it sinks TC too. forum TC customization didn't sink as much TC as you think it did, and it was quite overpriced for just a line of text. the new market has space for improvement, but so far it's been very successful.
Last edited by ancient; Feb 9, 2022 at 08:56 AM.