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Added NSFW tag to the thread as photos of war get more and more disturbing.

This is what Russia leaves behind: https://meduza.io/feature/2022/04/03...dry-etoy-voyny


Could you expand on what that entails? For example, if I posted a video of Russian war prisoners being beaten and executed by Ukranians, would you consider that propaganda? I'm trying to figure out whether this thread is for the purpose of realistically documenting war or is it solely pro-Ukraine.

I understand the point regarding "all propaganda bad", but I'm not entirely certain it's applicable in this current scenario.

Recording you speak about is horrible and is, if true, a demonstration of a war crime - but please don't ignore the officials' reaction. When we see cities destroyed to the ground, evidence of people raped and murdered by Russian soldiers, all that Putin's government comes up with is "that's not us that's all fake". They don't ever accept even the slightest idea that possibly some of those atrocities have been committed by their own army, which can't raise zero questions - especially considering their track record (e.g. denying plans to start war days before they started it). Ukraine's reaction to the torture video was, however, that they'll do a thorough investigation and would punish those responsible: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/31/...d-be-war-crime

Russia's officials have about a 2% chance of not lying in their statements. According to them, it's the "Ukrainian nazis" that suddenly resurfaced from somewhere and started slaughtering people by thousands while the brave Russian soldiers try to save everyone. A bit surprising that it only started happening February 24th at 5 am, but yeah we gotta believe them there, I guess?

Certainly Ukrainian propaganda exists and it's part of the reason why the world actually sees the destruction Russia is causing to Ukrainian cities and people. Yes, there will also probably be some lies spread around as well, e.g. number of soldiers killed on both sides - all of that we'll only be able to learn after the war. Are those lies critical and on par with Russia's lies? No.




TLDR; Stuff that's been confirmed by independent media is 99% safe to post here. If it's also been used by Russian propaganda to "prove their point about Ukrainian nazis" that wouldn't affect how your post is treated - but just make sure you've actually checked the sources properly first.
Last edited by sir; Apr 5, 2022 at 09:15 AM.