avoided being gm or es or whatever since that type of work is annoying to do with so many constraints; found it much easier to do anything like that with es support rather than being es myself lol

also avoided MS - most work for least returns for sure, much respect to the good MS members over the years, being a good MS lead should make you a legend by default probably

journey for me was: off topic lmod -> clan staff -> () -> smod (?) -> clan admin -> also... help squad... admin... -> died

wish I stayed as smod; I wasnt very good at being admin, and it burned me out badly, especially help squad for some reason - smod was the best time for sure

being admin over unpaid teenagers trying to force them to run activity checks (or just to be active.. help squad .. ) wasnt fun for me

honestly one of the worst parts about being staff is that I basically began totally avoiding the actual game, particularly bet servers; basically every 5 games someone breaks some technicality in the rules; if you dont do anything there is a randall (https://i.imgur.com/wk3e9uT.png) ready to whisper you asking why, and if you ARE draconian with it, people immediately get personally offended and it can ruin a room too

plus whenever youre ingame some absolute winner will find you with an alt to spam slurs in the chat

I had the most fun trying to change the default mod lists, working with suo on random forum stuff, hacking scripts into people's usertitles (and using that to create the Lunala account for those pkmn showdown tourney posts, now broken..), and occasionally there was a golden ban appeal such as that one which was like 100k words long or something lol

i got to make [NO] legendary, and definitely killed a few clans

now and then someone would be super thankful for something which was great, pretty rare though

oh also, it was great to meet a lot of people through staff - icky, suo, skulfuk, rai, faint, and tons more people

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Originally Posted by Arctic View Post
fresh faced smods would be easily excitable, very energetic about doing this janitorial work. as time went by, they would be worn out, which is probably why so many smods were so cynical and jaded around the toribash community: because we were constantly engaging with its bizarro side in cases so absurd you'd have to see to believe them. dealing with users such as career scammers, nazis, potential sex pests and unstable children (as an unstable then-child myself) meant the occasional, sometimes recurring, disproportionate backlash: obsessive harassment campaigns, doxxing, racism and other forms of bigotry, etc. it made it a tad difficult to enjoy toribash itself.

this stuff created apathetic man

Originally Posted by Arctic View Post
i did a ton of "investigative" work (:sob

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i forgot the actual thread topic; not including admin+ positions:

MS > SMod > ES > whoever else exists these days

lmod and clan staff used to be more taxing with higher forum activity and clan checks, now it seems(!) not so much
Last edited by Fear; Sep 7, 2025 at 02:13 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump