Originally Posted by
akna
americans+israel are modern day hitlerites and you are openly using the exact same rhetoric that hitler used in ww2 to excuse genocides and meaningless killing of already oppressed people, you do know that and you do it on purpose especially when every argument from you all who support this stupidity are reduced to "i just want to kill people" upon further inspection
I'll attack this first, Your point that America is using the same logic Hitler used is quite hilarious when you take into account, the IRGC systematically have been murdering their own people for protesting against the regime in power. For almost 50 years, the Iranian people have been under boot by the terroristic cell of radical idealists that use Islam as a justification for their quite literal genocide of their own people. And not to mention, the numerous terror cells they were funding aswell. Hamas, Hoothi, PNT, etc, in the region, that are also terrorizing neighboring countries.
Now, do I support what Israel is doing in Palestine? I think any rational human being can agree that they went too far and need to be held accountable for their actions against he Palestinian people. But trying to equate us quite literally removing the head of one of the most prolific terrorist regimes to hitler? Yeah you lost me there. Unlike most people, I don't base my decisions on "israel bad so everything bad." No. I actually look at things as it is. The iranian people literally were getting killed in the thousands for protesting the regime, had their internet access cut off to stop the spread of news in the country. But yes, removing that regime was a bad thing. Please tell me more
Originally Posted by
akna
wonder why the countries are so destabilised now? oh yeah, it's cus of 100 years of oppression from the western imperialists who have intentionally destabilised the region by attacking and killing even democratically selected leaders in these countries, then literally funding radical groups to fight proxy wars against other groups in the region, then killing more people for western hegemonys sake and by that giving the people you on purpose radicalised some martyrs to fight and die for, and you do all this on purpose so you are able to cause wars against the "radicals" you just oh so "unintentionally" created & your stupid top 0,01% billionaires can profit off from, and then grift and weaponise geo-politics so useful-idiots such as lucci above falls for it and starts supporting wars and genocides cus these idiots who fall for this stupid grift dont even bother read news, are not in higher education, are completely clueless of all societal topics, and get all their information from shitter and truth social
And we can agree on this. The pointless wars, the constant underhand dealing with those terror cells over the years in these "deals" stretching back to the reagan days did not make anything better. But you're equating numerous issues into one. The America war machine loves wars. Boeing, Lockheed. They want war, yes. But you know how you stop a war? Cutting the head off of the snake. The Iranian people did not vote for this regime, have actively been harshly against this regime, and have been dying protesting this regime. But you're concerned about the .001% ? Even if they profit off of this, is it not worth it to liberate people who have been living in systematic oppression for half a century? Or are you that mad that some people we will never meet are going to make bank off of it.
You claim to be informed on this matter, which I don't doubt you have knowledge on the whole plythe going on in that region. But theres no way you can sit here and try to make this a "maga is stupid" agenda. Defending a regime who oppress and violate every known human right, even inadvertently, is insane to me. But I don't think you're issue is with whats going on in Iran. I think your issue stems from the current president.
Originally Posted by
akna
one obvious thing would be transrights
or are you gonna deny the fact that donald trump has made trans rights significantly worse?
We're not going to have this discussion via the toribash forums. But the only leg you have to stand on in this sense would be the push for banning gender affirming care to underage individuals. In which numerous countries have already banned. A child under the age of 18 shouldn't be able to make permanent, life altering decisions before they can understand the ramifications of it. If you want to argue about "oh they banned people from using the bathroom" , I will not entertain that, because that is not a right, defined in the Bill of Rights to all Americans. You're rights haven't been stripped, and this dogma that trump has stripped trans rights, and women's rights is asinine.
I'll do some reading and get back to you. Maybe you can change my mind. But will get back to you on this.