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Originally Posted by Basil View Post
did you miss the entire point of my post? if you have magnitudes more wealth than the other person you can simply keep raising the stakes until you inevitably win and "bank" them. banking people is completely irrelevant and has little to do with skill. duelers pick their battles based on who has less money and then go around telling people they banked someone when in truth they won 1 coinflip after losing 5 of them right beforehand, simply due to their higher amount of wealth.
alternatively you can do usd duels which is literally equivalent to going on stake and booting up big bass hoping for a profit, like actually just go gambling atp



Ok, Basil, I'm going to simplify this a bit and make it easier for you to understand, since you already have a negative perception of what we are talking about rn.

For starters, I am directly replying to your posts within the bounds of which you are writing. My response is to what you stated in the quotes. I did not miss your point. The idea of coin flipping, to you, is based on the premise that we are surrounded by people with vastly different skill levels. So I'm going to give you a scenario (which is a true scenario because this is all ive done for the last 10 years).



*Ray 12 Enters Pub ABD lobby*

Players:
Ray12 - Tc- 10,000
Nine - Tc- 900,000
Rythm -Tc 3,000,000
Enclave -Tc 10,000,000
Froog - Tc 40,000

Ray12 asks if anyone wants to duel, Enclave asks how much, Ray12 says "10k?" enclave says "too little"

*Enclave will not duel until ray12 has more tc (so its worth his time)*

Nine, and Rythm are silent, they are playing a match rn

Froog says, "yea sure I dont duel but ok"

Ray12 wins +10k then 30k by upping the duel

Ray12 has 50k

Ray12 goes back and asks nine, nine says sure.

Ray 12 has to streak nine numerous times to not bank himself but get all of nines tc. If ray12 plays safe nine will get bored so they keep numbers high. Nine loses all 900k.

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I hope you get the point, it's gambling if we are at equal skill, its also completely up to you as the player to just not accept the duel. Nobody is forcing you. It's not luck, it's not a coin toss. If Ray12 lost to anyone leading up to banking the whole lobby, then it starts from zero. Nobody with 10kk is trying to pull 50k from you. They don't want that; they want everything. If you aren't good enough to duel, then it's not a coin flip. It's a skill gap. We are at a point in time where duelers havent chosen the lesser because that wont get your name out there. That won't tell people you're good. We can ALL see it and just not duel you.

To talk about dueling as if its just luck from both ends is honestly a slap in the face to those who spent time actually trying to get better at MP, usd dueling takes what you "worked" for and applies it. If you did a COD 1v1 for $1000 is that luck? A CS 1v1 for $2000, is that luck? Is that the point you were trying to make?

The habits of some duelers is gambling, but they didnt get to that point by bs'ing, they got there from labbing, watching. Losing losing losing winning winning losing. Again and again. You cant just make that up

There is a level of skill that I would like to see acknowledged. That's it. I've seen Duelers make fucking months' worth of rent off this game. There have even been a couple of them that funded their new life off this shit. They didn't coin toss their way into a better spot, they made one. That isnt achieved without being skilled and consistent in MP. Please do not make comments on something that you dont understand unless you are asking
Last edited by nine; Mar 29, 2026 at 11:35 PM.