Originally Posted by
Basil
diddy blud dont think boxshu is an rng mod. its fucking over. trying to make a case that duels are actually NOT coinflips and genuinely skill reliant and then using judo as an example should honestly necessitate a wellness check upon your household, most games LITERALLY end in ONE turn. it is theoretically possible to predict exactly what your opponent is gonna do in that one turn and win, but so is calling a coinflip 30 times in a row. if you can do that consistently you need to hit up your local gas station and buy as many lottery tickets as you can, you're gonna be a fucking billionaire in no time. not to mention the fact that literally nobody duels in anything other than abd boxshu or lenshu? and you yourself mentioned how 2/3 of those are opener reliant. on top of that, boxshu and lenshu are both incredibly easy mods to run in, due to their open nature and large dojo size. you can literally kick someone's shin 1 time and then run away for the rest of the game, would you consider that to be skillful? do you think cheesing the fuck out of everybody you play against to be some supreme display of skill? i don't. nobody plays in a way that makes their skill shine, everybody plays passive as fuck, since there's "money" on the line. if people actually played in interesting, unique ways, i would actually agree with you, i would love to see more MP representation, however the players we have are simply just lacking in that aspect. you can't play in an interesting way because you're just gonna get steamrolled by hyperoptimised meta openers that kill everything that isn't specifically designed to counter them, and innovation has grown stagnant. at least SP replaymakers still TRY to innovate, they TRY to do cool new things in unique ways. every single one of them has their own unique style that is a one of a kind blend of all their inspirations and experiences, whereas if you legit lp both players as a blank tori in a duel replay you would not be able to tell which one is which.
My mistake, I meant JudoFrac. Regardless, every mod I just listed is on the official comp mod list. Those are the names. Calling boxshu rng would be true if I didn't watch someone get 3-0'd multiple times; there's definitely a skill gap in tori usage in MP. Running in lenshu is a greater issue than boxshu. If you can't catch someone in a box, then you can't predict them. End of story.
I do agree with Lenshu. point blank.
There are players who do but in their specific mods they are interesting. Shmevin was a very interesting player but there is still a baseline that has to be folllowed. Boost plays lenshu very agressively, i dont see boost run that often. Its fun to watch. Kros sits on the wall in boxshu like he's being crucified. Im watching the opponent hesitate. Even if thats considered boring its gonna work. Itemp has no holes (PAUSE) when their tori is facing the opponent. I wonder how that plays against this player who plays like that etc. Thats the point im trying to make. Its not an innovation contest. I dont care if its boring.
WHO IS WINNING thats all i want this to be. Who is dominating, who would you definitely struggle aganist, who has handled other players of their caliber the most? Thats all this is. Im not fighting for duel innovation, a meta is just going to be a meta. Im trying to showcase who comes out on top of everyone.
Last edited by nine; Mar 30, 2026 at 12:17 AM.