Originally Posted by
Thanatos12
Obama was awarded the peace prize for "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples,” particularly his work to rid the world of nuclear weapons.
For example, bridging gaps with the Muslim world, closing Guantanamo bay, setting timetables to bring troops out of Iraq, Nuclear disarmament talks etc.
So that is at least half of your whole comment wrong as you don't even know why he won the award.
More false statements and pointless insults at Obama. Do you have any evidence all he does is listen to himself speak?
What about the healthcare issue? I mean did you just forget that for the last month or so he has been trying to push through that?
On that he signed a detailed executive order to ban torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners.
He has pit a lot of policies in place to stop bribery and corruption (banning lobbyists giving gifts etc.)
Obama has not accomplished anything in the Middle East as I have clearly proved to you.
He firstly has not done anything to stop the nuclear research and construction in the Middle East so he has done nothing to do with ridding the world of nuclear weapons.
The tension remains high if not at an all time peak and there is very high risk of war.
He did a fantastic job there didn’t he?
That point is now irrelevant.
"For example, bridging gaps with the Muslim world"
He has achieved nothing in that regard either.
The Muslims and Israelis have come no closet to peace and he has only driven one of America’s closest allies away.
As my earliest example showed you. I am not sure you have read anything in this thread so far.
Once he pulls out of Iraq there will be extreme consequences.
American forces have been keeping the peace there and once they leave all hell will break loose.
There only decent law enforcement is the American troops and therefore it is nothing but a huge mistake to pull out.
I know exactly why he won the award and it is ridiculous.
Nothing that you have mentioned has actually happened.
Now onto your second pillar
"Do you have any evidence all he does is listen to himself speak?"
Yes, all he does is make speeches and useless ones at that.
Watch the news please.
If you compare his gibberish to the speech that Netanyahu made at the UN you can see that most of what he says is irrelevant and has no significance.
What action has he actually taken?
He gave talks on nuclear disarmament but America maintains its nuclear arsenal.
And the Islamic states are continuously developing their own.
Another one of your points falls flat there.
You also mentioned the Healthcare issue that has been denied by a senate that his party control.
These are people sworn to support him and even they can’t stand by him.
No matter how hard he tries to push it through it will not go though because plain and simple it is a bad idea.
Ill reiterate.
Originally Posted by
kwygon
Obama has attempted to pass several bills which have been shot down by a senate that his party controls.
Most famously his health bill was recently set forward.
What it entailed was a government run health care system in which the taxes which were already raised for the rich/middle class are being raised again to provide cheap health care for the poor.
If we look at it most employers already provide health care for their employees, so there are only very very few people without health care.
This bill will also create a one trillion dollar loss over the period of 10 years, which is money that the US government does not have.
After all we are in a recession.
So he can push all he wants but there is no point.
It will just be detrimental and in laments terms will not work.
To address your final point about his policies to stop corruption.
It is a mere trivial issue compared to the recession, the war on terror, the tension in the Middle East.
Everything he has done has been trivial and pointless.
And if you would like to open the corruption door, where did the One hundred and twenty million United States Dollars come from that he spent in his campaign,
that he refuses to divulge the source.
Clearly you have not even read my post and are simply talking without any substantiation.