Originally Posted by Ragdollmaster

Hey guys, since Odlov hasn't shown up yet, I accept the privilege of firing his argument at the Sun.



Protip; taxes, as in the increased governmental taxes being imposed on the rich (OH BOO HOO THEY CAN ONLY AFFORD TO WAX THEIR FERRARIS EVERY OTHER DAY NOW INSTEAD OF DAILY) are what pay for public hospitals, just like they pay for public schools, law enforcement, and the fire department. Nobody expects private hospitals to let in poor people for free, but how can public hospitals treat people if the hospital doesn't have enough money? This is why we've got taxes.



Yes, it is a privilege. It's a privilege that people who can afford to pay for Med-Aid aren't incapable of doing so because they're, say, immigrants from war-torn countries (Former Yugoslavia, anyone?) whose education isn't recognized by the OH SO GREAT COUNTRY OF AMERIKAH, or can't get an education and therefore can't get a high-paying job because they can't afford it. All people, however, have the right to health care, and this is typically provided by taxes because FYI, Bill Gates and Oprah cannot pay for every single poor person's health care. Charities have their place, but taxes take a little bit of money from a whole lot of people and in turn are able to provide needed services.



True, none of the rich are running around stabbing the poor because they know the poor won't be able to limp into an ER, but poor people are more less being thrown out into the cold by rich companies just looking to make a profit. "Oh, your little four year old cancer-induced son needs a kidney transplant? I see, and would you be able to come up with $90,000? No? Sorry, why don't you try the soup kitchen down the street?"



1) People being able to stay alive is a universal right, and while it has its place as a business, if you believe people should die because they can't afford to pay for health care then you, good sir, should go drown in a pile of capitalist shit.
2) People who can't afford an education can't get a good job and therefore can get neither insurance from a good job or can pay for private insurance because they're barely able to make ends meet.
3) I barely repressed the urge to track you down via IP address and smack you in the face with a large hammer for comparing private transportation to the value of a human life. Paying health taxes is not the same as pampering everyone who can't afford to pamper themselves.
4) It isn't the responsibility for the rich to pay for the poor. It is the responsibility for a human to help another human stay alive.
5) This isn't communism or socialism where people are getting everything equally. This is forking over what basically equates to fucking pocket change so that someone less privileged than you can stay alive. Where do you see in America rich people being hauled off to exile and their assets being repossessed so that poor people can split up the money? Because that's what happened in Eastern Europe during WWII. If you made a lot of money and lived near Russia, chances are you would get hauled off to Siberia for being a capitalist- which constitutes you being an enemy of the GREAT NATION.



tl;dr: You're an ignorant moron who needs to suck it up and stop believing everything being spewed out by rich people who are mad they can't afford six Yachts anymore due to taxes and these idiots who don't support Obama because they think the fact that Obama hasn't turned the entire world into a sparkling utopia yet means he's a shitty president and is proof that he's a lying commie trying to take away the HARD EARNED MONEY of the rich.

tl;dr;tl;dr: Learn not to believe propaganda and get over yourself. Kthxbye.