thank you Hampa . the sig is just a short animation i did using animation shop 3 witch makes animated gifs its like macromedia flash mx but it makes the animations into gifs. I have lots of animations that i may change my signature to from time to time. Because i dont like having the same thing all the time so be on the look out because i might just have a new sig for like a day then i might change it to somthing different.