I cant get anywhere on them either XD. However I've chosen an alternative path. Toribash doesn't have the right engine for what I want to be able to do on Air Treks so I'm working on making a game (OpenGL under SDL) thats going to be based on the show. It will be posted in my signature probably about a year from now as an alpha. That is assuming I figure out how to get this to work. Me and my friend are going to end up having to do a lot of research as we've never programmed a full game before.