READ: Dae67 asked an important thing, so i'll translate for everyone his question:
he asked if the logo I'm asking you to do is toribash/avatar related or if I need a corporate logo.

The answer is: I need a corporate logo. Even if it will never become the logo of a real corporation (in that case we would have paid a professional graphic designer) I still need something which looks "professional".

Most of you are proposing colorful, abstract and flashy designs, while I need the opposite.

Since I believe noone has googled the two example logos I wrote about in the first post, I'm obliged to post them and even more, just to make you understand what I mean when I say <<neat>>:




See? No mess, clean logos, that's what I mean.