Originally Posted by
TheSecret
Besides if aikido isnt about useing ur opponents force to disarm him and/or win, i just see a valid clap counter there from an aikido player trying to counter a clap, and there are other places more exposed when one does the contract elbow and wrist movement.
But why do you consider this unfair if its a way to get you more constricted then a clap? that wouldnīt even happen if you didnīt clap the "wrists contracting uke"
and besides the person isnīt cheating nor hacking just useing the functions that the game itself presented, how can such be consider foulplay.
If you clap and constrict their hands, how can it be fair for the other guy to actually move or do anything? Since he canīt simply avoid the grab like in real life.
You shouldnīt shun a movement that makes your useless.
i'm not. and this is not a problem for me, since i'm still able to lock his elbows.
the point is: wrists are one of the most essential joints in aikido. You can use em, but your opponent can't use em anymore. is that fair? and this is just a first turn.
I can also use wrists like that, but it would not leave much chances to opponent, thats why i use a clap, thats why i always try to throw opponent inside the dojo, not throwing him far outside, where there is no chances to save.
fairplay
or i can start in rather vantage point ( i mean other position of legs, then just relaxed ), play with forced suplex all the time, where there is no risc for me at all, and don't bothering myself to spin the opponent in the end and get 1 more qi and 10 tc, but is it worth it? ( spin on throw is risky already and at this moment if opponet will counter you you are getting dqed in 5/10 times. )
i'd rather risk, have a nice match but loose, then win without leaving any chance to opponent. sportsmanship.
for the sake of good game.
as i said, and as i stated on first post: game, replay > win/loss. i don't care did i won or not. there is no such things as win/loss to me. there are only: done everything correct or failed something.
if ok then play more, if no, then just wait. ;)
also about this:
Originally Posted by
TheSecret
well first off, abt the wrists, if u dont clap he isnt going to grab you like that, second of after that, you can, 2nd turn ungrab contract your wrists , 3rd turn grab, 4th turn ungrab, since his wrist joint is so exposed you can actually apply enough stress to it so it unbreaks.
there are other aikido-like mods then aikido and bd, spiritwrestling for example, where you can't harm your opponent directly, there is a wrists dq, and such move give rather more advantage. But again, is that's a fairplay?
but hey, you can counter it with torsograb! and what do you have in the end?
2 players stuck into one piece with doublegrabs
is that's a good game?
Last edited by snake; Feb 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM.