For crying out loud, I'll show you so EVEN YOU understand.

Camera (Left/Right, Forward/Backward, Up/Down, [lookat values]);

Now. You use x as Left/Right, y as Up/Down and z as Forward/Backward.

But I don't care about what they're called. I use them left to right and call them, x, y, z.

Meaning I use x as Left/Right, y as Forward/Backward and z as Up/Down.

and i didnt say change y i said change z

Oh you didn't?

you would have to change the y or z

Yeah you did. And you need to change your x or z, and my x or y.

Are you even reading what you are quoting?

PS. Your rule, meaning the rule you use. I don't care if it's the way it's supposed to be. I can call them a, b, c if I want and I can follow that rule...my rule. I use x, y, z, you use x, z, y.