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Thanks for the brick Juntalis ! it was somehow nice to read tho

Jay :

Because most of what you said is crap (call it my opinion but I think most people here would agree)

hmmmm, so should I deduce you evaluate the veracity of your opinions based on what you think most people seem to agree on. That's not particulary productive you know; that might even be seen as a lack of critical thinking. lololo

Read my posts carefully next time. I never said schools rate people. I said the people that hire students want to compare one to another. Not schools, but corporations, businesses, etc.

I do read carefully, but the more I pay attention, the less sense it makes.

Perhaps that's something we should be explaining to 12 year old kids. If that's the sort of "reform" you want, I'm all for it. But so far, you haven't offered one bit of change to the schooling system, all you're doing is bitching. This is what pisses me off, if you have a problem, don't just cry about it, try and offer change. If you can't find a way to change it, maybe you're the problem. In this case, in my opinion, you and those kids who choose to think they're above school, are the problem.

It's a discussion forum to share ideas and point of views. It's already a pain in the ass to expose a state of mind on here, so I wont bother writting pages of hypotethical reforms on the whole schooling system to prove you something.
I offered different feelings (than yours) toward school, to which you answered in a previous post :
"Besides, there isn't any change to school because there need not be."
I don't see why I should even bother trying to show you alternative solutions, since "there need not be" (I don't think that's english by the way). Beside, as brilliant as I might be, I don't hold all the answers . That's how society works and progresses, people put their thoughts together and figure things out together... kinda hard to do when people can't properly think by themselves.

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If you can't find a way to change it, maybe you're the problem. In this case, in my opinion, you and those kids who choose to think they're above school, are the problem"

The "problem" ? and what should we be the problem of ? School ? society ?
Are we the scum of humanity because we ain't following the line and yearn for changes.
I think you haven't quite understood the concept of "democracy" yet : changes and reforms don't come from one person "knowing the ultimate truth"... Changes require shared thoughts and discussion, if you're just gonna wait for someone to propose a miraculous world changing system -well I hope you're comfortable- because "you might as well lay down and die."

If changes happened when we're living as we told and not questioning the actual system, I think we'd know by now.
Last edited by deprav; May 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM.