Someone in power works for his own income just like your parents do when they go to work.
That's what nature tought us and that's how it will be.
Someone with power works to keep his place, not to let go the power he already have, like a cult of himself.
My father stopped working when me and my sisters were kids because he was working too much, under pressure, and didn't see us enough, so he stopped working to raise us properly. My mother worked (and still does) to provide his family food, pay the house and give us a decent life.
Working for your own income has nothing to do with nature, it's what our actual civilization preaches.
If you want to create an artificial system that bends the rules of nature by providing everyone with the same chances/power/ressources and whatnot you are more than welcome to do that.
An artificial system bending the rules of nature is what we actually have. We're over-consuming in a way our planet won't be able to provide enough, we're mindlessly "looting" the natural ressources in the name of... some people's income of fictionnal currency.
Plus liberal-capitalism provide the richest more wealth and comfort, and on the other hands provides a sad unhealthy life of slavery for the people of "third world countries", or just make them starve to death.
Communism failed very hard at that so I guess before proposing that we need to “evolve” you'll need a good proposition, not some empty phrases.
I've never said communism was the solution, most people seem to think if we're not capitalist, we can either be socialist or communist, or an utopian anarchist... that's a pretty narrow perception of the politic (decisions influencing the specy).
Plus, Communism have never been applied for real, as well as socialism. All we've seen were "communist look alike" systems applied on an already world wide capitalist system. It had the name "Communism", like actual governments are called "democracies" but aren't democratic, like the actual chinese regime calling himself communist... it's just a big joke.
Also, I see you made up your own definition of evolution. It has nothing to do with philosophy so I suggest you try and find an alternative word.
Evolution is a change of traits and inherited characteristics of a population of organisms.
You don't understand what Evolution implies. The "change of traits and inherited characteristics of a population of organisms" is a consequence; organisms change because they adapt themselves to their changing environment, or changing needs. We didn't grow thumbs in one night and then just went like "nice lets grab stuff", we didn't stand up on 2 legs in one night to run marathons : we adapted over thousand of years because the environment we were living in forced it.
Evolution is simply the phenomenon of Life that needs to adapt itself in a "symbiotic" fashion, to keep on living through the course of time. The physical changes on organisms is the "point of the iceberg". The rest is evolution of the customs, techniques, habits, way of living etc... Evolution is as biologic as it is "metaphysical".
"Revolution" implies an event in a precise point in time, evolution is on the long run.
I'll considere the human specie relatively smart when we'll be able to consciously influence our evolution through choices and reason instead of letting ourselves grow like a cancer for our Home and ourselves, like an autistic specie.
Capitalism is pretty much the only system that works nice and proper so…
What... you need to take a step back and look at capitalism through a new p.o.v.
This is just a statement of your own through your eyes of organism adapting itself in the present political environment, and lacking hindsight (not trying to be insulting, it's just how the actual system work, putting "blinkers" on people so they don't see solutions)
Capitalism is basically slavery, the richest take advantage of the poor, like "first world countries" take advantage of poor countries, making their children work in awful conditions for a ridiculous salary just to make the production of useless piece of junks cheaper. The comfort of 20% of the population is at the cost of the health and freedom of the other 80%.
As a specimen of the social specie that is humanity, capable of compassion and empathy, knowing the way I live wastes the lives of millions of people somewhere else on earth makes me sad.
yeah… suggest an alternative and prove that it's efficient.
Sadly I don't hold all the answers, but still I could suggest dozens of alternative solutions better than capitalism... the hard part is to make "transitory" periods/systems because we can't change the world all at once, just in a finger snap (THAT would be a world scale revolution). Actually a lot of people already proposed alternative society models, people just never heard of them, or lobbies keep them from developping because it would "disturb" their absurd profit. Like oil lobbies stops free & clean energy from developping to keep selling petrol.
We're a social specy, we live in society because we'd die alone in the wilderness ; someone expressing an emotion on his face makes your brain produce chemicals to make you feel the same emotion... that's how we work. We're not meant to let people starve and suffer in order to buy a big flat TV to watch brainwashing crap in HD.
We need to create to survive or we'll just wipe ourselves.
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Edit : a little exemple of the relation between evolution of our mind and our environment, that I like to use in those kind of discussions :
A tribe of south-america called the Zo'e; they never had the need to make a currency or put mercantile values on their surrounding. Sharing is natural to them, to the point they don't have any word or expression in their language to say "Thank you", because giving to the rest of the group is just logic, like WE find logic the fact to work shitty jobs to earn paper to buy food and useless crap.
Do you understand the point ? There's no "one truth" or "one way of living", there's only adaptation and extrapolation of our past choices and crucial events through time.
Last edited by deprav; Jun 14, 2013 at 09:23 AM.