My poor friend you don't have a clue about what I'm trying to show you, this is gonna be tricky. You basically say Capitalism is good because it's here, so it shouldn't change.

Of course we have benefited some years of capitalism, before that we have benefited some years of monarchy as well etc... In every past systems the men have "benefited" some improvements and discoveries. But this suffer 2 huge "gaps" in logic : nothing proves we wouldn't have improved if we had a different system at that time, we might have done even better ; and secondly nothing proves that the economical system has something to do with our discoveries and technological advances.
Technological and Scientific innovations happen because we're trying to resolve issues and answer questions, not because someone wants to make profit.

(dumb) Exemple : We didn't went to space because someone told himself "I want to make profit, I'll invent something to go to space and sell it to governments", but some people, deeply interested and curious about space searched and discovered ways to explore... Then capitalism enter the game and some people manage to get profit out of it.

The poor are no longer living on the farm worrying about them dying next winter, or understanding that their child will more than likely not live into adulthood, they are in apartments, living quite well than they ever had before.

You need to inform yourself about the world. A huge part of the human population still starve to death, or don't have access to drinkable water. A huge part of the population can't educate themselves because they have no mean to do so. A huge part of the population is in constant civil war because "First world countries" establishe dictatorship and putschs in poor countries to keep control over their ressources, so their children fights with guns and die before adulthood.

You're speaking about a fictionnal carebear capitalism that have STRICTLY NOTHING to do with the actual system, you're talking about schoolbook theory and capitalist propaganda.

You could say that just because the poor do not live in mansions, their lives are not valued. In fact, it's a very emotional argument rather than a logical one- which reminds me of a lot of what Marxian rhetoric is- appeals to emotion rather than reason.

What the fuck are you talking about. You've just sent away centuries of humanitarism thoughts, the golden rule, and the principle of "social specie" all at once, because according to you "it appeals to emotion rather than reason".
At least I'm glad it wakes some emotions inside of your "rational capitalist heart", it means you're not totally hopeless I guess.

Capitalism being slavery is not a tale communists were telling each others late at night around campfires, it's a fact. In Europe the number of people being unemployed gets higher every day because big companies send their factory in India or somewhere else in Asia because they can make the people work longer for almost nothing compared to the minimum wage in EU, means more profit. Heads of companies don't give a shit about people losing their jobs or making some children work 12 hours a day for nothing.
Last edited by deprav; Jun 14, 2013 at 10:40 AM.