I'm just going to stop posting now. I don't have a clue why someone would ever value Snake's opinion on wushu over the majority, especially when it contradicts the antics of and methods of most of the players who transcend his skills.

I'll be playing wushu with whoever wants to enjoy the great mod with me. And I'll be using openers because its smarter, more effective, and it makes me happy.

fl0w, RelaxAll, and Alpha showed why they need to practice competitive play. It doesn't mean we don't have crazy potential, I'm just saying its possible that everyone got so wrapped up in an idea that we didn't focus enough at what completes the wushu package. Snudge completely underperformed when it mattered, because he wasn't able to play well when it counted. That's a problem he's admitted to, and it's a problem I'm taking an extremely active approach to fixing within myself and others.

We have a lot of work to do boys. But it's work you can do within yourselves. You don't need a rule change or a mod change to make it happen. It's incredibly obvious that this thread OP had nothing to do with what sparked Snake feeling the need to debate. Most of you agree there's a place for openers as you've stated. The real prompt should have been- what can we do to make Wushu competitive. The answer: start taking a competitive approach within yourself and against one another.