Originally Posted by
snake
indeed, low grabs, contracted wrists, shovels and lift kicks are the current lowest common dominator, whats wrong in raising the bar?
raising the bar is fine, but you are trying to raise it to something that can be defeated by current techniques
to be honest, general concept is appliable enough for throws are effective, the only problem is grab mechanics.
i would recommend you to do something like throw once successfully, so you will see and feel the whole difference. if you struggle, you may use tutorial provided.
once you able to execute something complex you would never come back to more simplistic approach.
i can bet that you was using shovel extensively as a beginner and after you learned how to suplex or lift kick you are not using shovel that much anymore, correct?
same goes for all techniques
is it enough to perform those throws regularly though? tb has insane amount of possibilities and i bet a decent amount of them will put you in a position where a throw is not possible
last part: i never even knew what a shovel was because the only mods i played until 2012 were tk and meatspin