Originally Posted by
pusga
raising the bar is fine, but you are trying to raise it to something that can be defeated by current techniques
i guess this assumption is the very root of problem why we are talking on different languages.
throws can and can't be defeted by current techniques like any other current technique, based on skill.
the whole issue is that you can not throw people when they try to cheese.
having proper grabs will allow to break out of low grabs and ignore torso grabs, so your opponent can't dictate your game, on other hand, people will be able to break out from throws, so the game will be more dynamic.
idk, watch some judo on tv, with proper grabs focus will be shifted from "who low grabs first" to who grabs what at right time and who breaks out, involving more skill and general understanding of concepts.
do you play flight sims so i can make an analogy?
you can't throw people if your torso or legs are grabbed, so you switch to turnover with free hand.
Originally Posted by
pusga
is it enough to perform those throws regularly though? tb has insane amount of possibilities and i bet a decent amount of them will put you in a position where a throw is not possible
it's possible in almost any situation, except obvious cheeses i mentioned, but result will varry, for example you can get throw forward instead of what you initially intended, such as throw backward, adjusting to situation.
Originally Posted by
pusga
last part: i never even knew what a shovel was because the only mods i played until 2012 were tk and meatspin
i could try analogy with snap kicks, and some other more advanced technique as an example, but i have no clue about tk, so i will skip it.
Last edited by snake; Aug 25, 2014 at 11:26 AM.