Originally Posted by
ImmortalPig
If you say "you are free to say what you want except X" then that's not free.
Yeah. It's mostly, or partly free. These non-binary scales are recognised by all the freedom indices.
Originally Posted by
ImmortalPig
If you come up with a coherent argument then I'll consider it.
Likewise.
Originally Posted by
ImmortalPig
They can if they gain the necessary credentials, but I don't think it's reasonable for a plumber to expect to have a say in world economics.
I also don't see how requiring people to at least know what they are talking about before they are allowed to influence their country is a system where people are complete divorced from decision making.
Because you're creating a system in which the will of a few decide the fate of all. You're creating an oligarchy - this is no different from the situation we have now. I started this thread asking for suggestions on how to fix the current situation, not replicate it. This is why I won't agree with you.
Originally Posted by
protonitron
You can have freedom in certain different areas. The number and significance of these areas can mean that overall you have more freedom.
Originally Posted by
hawkesnightmare
Expanding on Protonitron's statement...
As I've said to Pig, freedom indices (which often don't look at the holistic level of freedom, rather the specific areas Protonitron mention) all recognise multiple degrees of freedom. Certain situations aren't either free or not - there's a lot more grey area than you'd think. Freedom isn't a binary.
Last edited by Ele; Nov 19, 2014 at 03:10 AM.