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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Care to explain?

I think your broad definition of oligarchy practically encompasses every modern government, so I'm curious as to why you think it's so bad.

It's not a broad definition. It's the actual definition. Really, it is.

Oligarchies are bad because they disconnect the will of the populace with the state. Instead of the population choosing how they want to live, a select group of people choose for them. The end result of oligarchies is, inevitably, as history tells us, populist rebellions. The oligarchs then either adjust the system so it more fits the peoples agenda, or they crush it and become totalitarian.

That's why oligarchies are bad, and that's the way we're headed now. It's the precise reason why I made this thread. Rather than my points being 'meaningless', perhaps you should actually think about them and realise they're not.

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
I just said that's not what it means and you need to look it up though.

Yeah. My point is that what I said is what it means. You're the one that needs to look it up. Tell me what you think an oligarchy is and I'll tell you why you're wrong. I know you're wrong because I know what it actually is and I've said it 10 times.

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Would you say the US is an oligarchy?

I've said as much in this thread. Don't you ever read?

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Unless you have a direct democracy are you saying all governments are oligarchies?

Most representative governments are oligarchies. Very few countries have a system where the power is with the people. A lot of people have woken up to this and a lot more are starting to wake up. I'm not saying direct democracy is the only way - I'm saying it's an alternative that gives people more power.

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
I don't believe I put it like that, I think I said that issues are too complex for a general understanding to be sufficient.

Semantics.

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Your loose definition of what you mean by 'few' is causing problems. What do you consider to be a 'few'? 1-in-a-million? 1%? 49%?

It's not numerical. The 'few' is a group of people that have power over everyone else. I would've thought you'd have known this from your nuanced understanding of oligarchies.

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
u2 m8

Just pointing out that you're a hypocrite, m8.