Originally Posted by protonitron View Post
Can we not resort to racism. The last 100 years do not naturally make people born in that region more hardcore, growing up in that region does.

Bro, you need to take a look at history. All historians recognise that some peoples are 'tougher' than others, and that there are reasons for this. In vogue right now is this thinking that geography has a huge effect. Germanic and (Steppe) tribes bred fearsome warriors since the environment they grew up in was so harsh. They were engaged in constant warfare with each other to try to hold onto lands. They, because of their environment, were naturally tougher, more hardcore people. Giant, sinewy muscles, and a culture that proudly accepted drinking wine from the skull of your enemy. Of course, the whole world back then was tougher. Nowadays, far less people are born into that kind of harsh environment.

The Assyrians are another perfect example of how geography affects biology. They were unfortunate enough to be in an area of Nth Mesopotamia (think north of Baghdad), that had no natural frontiers. What's more, their land was the land everyone else walked on through to get to other lands, so their defense to that was that they would be the most brutal and strong people in the whole area.

It's not racist to say that Middle Easterners are harder people than us. Especially when you consider how complacent and how not-at-all warrior-like your average Westerner has become.


Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
I agree. The religion of Islam itself is basically a rough guideline to living in the desert. So, that comes back to my initial point of why let these people into a society that they are not fit to be in? Let time take its course. You cannot introduce people of little culture to a society like France and expect it to go well.

OK, but containing them would hardly help the modernisation(/westernisation) process, would it? It would retard it, if anything.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 11, 2015 at 02:52 AM.