Originally Posted by
Hyde
The idea isn't to force them to become like us. You cannot force people to modernize.
I never said that was the idea. I said containing them would retard the process of modernisation.
Originally Posted by
Hyde
There are absolutely no guidelines anywhere on how to modernize a region, so any discussion is purely speculation. I personally believe that forced integration is a bad thing.
Again, no one is talking about forced integration. There's been some pretty good precedents on how modernisation and westernisation can occur in the Middle East. Iran in the 70s is the best example.
Those aren't Americans. They were the Iranian youth of the 70s. In fact, it's because of this history of westernisation in Iran that the West is finally starting to realise that Iran, unlike lots of other countries in the region, is a natural ally for the West. They are a young people, and they're not happy with being lumped in with the extremists of both denominations. Containing them would be a horrendous misstep.
Originally Posted by
xlr84life
Yes, this a problem with human nature.
No. The exact problem with Islam and womens rights, is what it is.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 11, 2015 at 04:35 AM.