Originally Posted by xlr84life View Post
@Ele

That is kinda what triggered this whole discussion, when I said a few days ago that the problem is human nature, not Islam. You and a few others disagreed with me.
Now you are saying it doesn't matter about the intent, it's the effect.
Intent = Quran
Effect = people

If you are saying effect is the problem, which is people, I 100% agree with you.

To be clear, I'm not saying human nature is the problem. I'm saying, regardless of what the scripture says, the result (specifically sharia) is the problem.

Originally Posted by xlr84life View Post
The initial topic was discussing whether Islam itself is the problem (everyone was quoting Qruan verses and stuff). Since it has changed, could you post some evidence that sharia is oppressing women today?

Yeah sure. I posted this back on page 8. http://www.clarionproject.org/unders...s-under-sharia

Under sharia, women don't have the free will to leave the house or seek employment.

Originally Posted by xlr84life View Post
You also need to prove that millions are effected as you claimed. I would post the links but it's a huge hassle on my outdated phone. I will try on the weekend however.

Yeah, I did this already too. Back on page 11, I posted this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia#...by_country.svg) that shows the countries that have fully implemented Sharia and also the countries that partly have it. Just going off two of the countries that fully implement it, Iraq and Iran, you've got over 110 million people. Around half of those would be women - at the very least 50 million.

edit: Hawkes beat me to it.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 15, 2015 at 05:55 AM.