Originally Posted by
ImmortalPig
I still think it's absurd to frame 'having to ask for permission to get a job or leave the house' as 'lack of free will'...
"Free will is the ability of agents to make choices unimpeded by certain prevailing factors." Agent = women, impeding factors = sharia law.
Originally Posted by
ImmortalPig
The Bible and Quran do not work in the same way.
Islam is not revisionist or expansionary in the same way that Christianity is. They don't revise their religion to fit the morals of the time. I'm sure you can appreciate the absurdities of modern Christianity (aka everything but Baptist).
These criticisms aren't just coming from the West, you know.
As I posted earlier, there is a big movement within Islam to 'historicize' the Quran.
Here's a good example,
"He says that Islamic scriptures were written at a time when the dominant culture in the Middle East was patriarchal, and must be read in this context. “The Koran must be historicized before applying it to modern issues,” he told me. Musawah is undertaking an extensive knowledge-building project on the issue of male authority over women in an effort to fight for family-law reforms."
http://www.musawah.org/rise-islamic-feminists
And also, the other quote I mentioned earlier;
"She referred to the work of Muslim intellectuals, like Nasr Abu Zayd of Egypt and Abdolkarim Soroush of Iran, among others, reformers who argue that the Koran must be read in historical context, and that laws derived from it - stoning for adultery, for example - can change with the times. Both men are in exile in the West.
Mir-Hosseini argues that Muslim societies are trapped in a battle between two visions of Islam. One, legalistic and absolutist, emphasizes the past. The other is pluralistic and more inclined toward democracy. In Iran, reformers were gaining ground, she said, but President George W. Bush's war on terror put them on the defensive."
And here's a list of "organizations and campaigns [that] are a part of a diverse and active global movement of Muslim women’s activism.”
http://www.wisemuslimwomen.org/activism/region/C58/P0/
@xlr84life
See, there's plenty of people disgruntled with the status quo.