Originally Posted by sir

Ok so this is how this thread looks: Hax wanted to get a mod list for matchmaking system, snake rushed in and started suggesting his own mods (because everything made by him is obviously better), everyone ended up arguing if greykido is similar to abd.


I seriously don't know why none of you suggested a variation of valetudo as aikido/greykido replacement if you all complain about shovels there. Either use one of them or slightly modify greykido's engagedistance. Don't make your own completely new mods with some weird settings that make fights messed up (like erthtkv2 does with its random dms thanks to selfdamage that always resulted in that) - because they are only fun for you.

Even though I agree that regular wushu running / aikido shoveling are a problem when speaking of "competitive" play, all the other mods you have here can be abused aswell.
In rkmma you get low and lie on the ground up to the moment when your opponent reaches you - then you kick the shit out of him and he flies away. Lenshu3ng is abused the same way lenshu3 was - you kick in the first frames and then lie on the ground, sometimes kicking the opponent when he reaches you. Erthtk is a mess, I'm not even going to speak about it - even Erth says it's bad which should mean something to you. Aikidobd is one of the most popular mods - yet if you find someone who can lift as good as Leyz did he'll wreck anyone with any fighting style. Never played that snake's variation of spiritwresling (most probably because it's bad as it has 3.5k games played since 2012 - AND because swfixed was created later and got noticeably more popular) but swfixed looked like the only mod that is more or less "competitive" as you define it - but that's probably because nobody plays spiritwresling. Seriously, the original mod and all its modifications have only ~160k games played combined.


If you want to get a system that players would want to use - please come up with good mods people play and suggest easy ways to fix them if needed rather than creating your crazy-ass fl0w-approved mods that only snake will play.


Also why no judofrac in the list - or some fl0w_esport_judo variation?


EDIT:
Also this is hilarious. A mod designed to be played as "wait until your opponent makes a mistake" is now considered to be agressive.