Oracle I know what happened at 9/11 no need to correct every sentence dude. Flying planes into stuff is also known as Kamikazi Bombing which the Japanese started so it can infact be called "Bombing" for the sake of simplifying the sentence rather than saying "The group hated the government and then flew a plane into the World Trade Center which killed many civilians instead of killing members of the government that they hate.". And we can argue about this and we can have discussions about this topic and that would be mentally stimulating but in reality we cannot do much about it so if you guys do feel the US is practicing modern-day colonialism then at the very least we should be glad it's them rather than someone else like an angry country or a Non-UN country. At least the US won't go attacking all the other countries to claim land with their power since they are a member of the UN and the UN would not allow it. Yes sometimes good intentions lead to bad results but I'm sure some good things can come out of their global leverage. And what I meant was in their eyes they were trying to restore freedom to Iraq hence the name of the op. And idk why they didn't attack Saudi or Afghanistan. Maybe they had received intel making them believe that the Org was stationed in Iraq or had plans there. And don't the neighbours encroach on Israel too? This all said I respect all your opinions. And almost everyone has confirmation bias without knowing it, it's hard to avoid which is why Discussions get messy and some turn into arguements.
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Replying to Divine now with some very good points in his last post:
Yeah see I totally agree, Al-Qaeda and other national powers usually go corrupt if unsupervised by the US or UN which is why they need to occupy to maintain leverage so that there's no injustice happening via the national government of said country. And ikr "No threat to US Citizens", says this 5 days after the 14th anniversary of 9/11 where 3000 innocent citizens were killed. Now that's what I call good intentions(In the terrorist's eyes) pave the road to hell. They thought they were martiers serving their religion but they were terrorists killing the innocent. And let's say for 1 retarded milisecond that it's the fault of the US, well now they are stationing troops to help out so get over it guys, it's like Divine said, they are letting troops occupy high-conflict zones to defend the Middle-East so if you feel that they are doing more bad than good then first of all your most likely wrong and secondly you can't do much and third they just want to make sure no civilians get killed and then kill the terrorists that came to us for war. Also I just saw the first section of Divine's post it's amazing

From now on we are teammates here :P Like Divine said they can't argue that there is terrorism there as an excuse to steal resources as there are actually terrorists there which are behaving in an extremely obvious mannor. Sure the US takes some resources but like Divine said they started the war by attacking our homeland and now we are taking the war to them and taking advantage of the strategically correct oportunity to take advantage of the resources there before the terrorists/enemies do. Like Divine said(Sorry if I seem to just quote your whole post XD) if they declare war on us or an ally then we go attack them by stationing troops or defend the land they are attacking by occupying troops at said place, it's basic warfare it's so simple, if they attack and declare war we send troops to attack them back to win the war. It has been happening forever in every war since the beginning of time even excluding human wars. Ants send troops to attack enemy bases. You can't argue with the way a war works Deprav since it's very basic, they hit us, we hit them, we repeat that process again and again until someone wins and then both parties stop hitting. We will use resources at their country while we are there but that's they're fault for starting the conflict which caused us to occupy their country. It's not the fault of the US if they gave Al-Qaeda weapons and then Al-Qaeda went corrupt, they were assisting who they thought was their ally. Like Divine said they started the war so we took the war to them and when it is all over we will achieve peace. Well I covered all of Divine's amazing and accurate post

Seriously don't think I'm being sarcastic please I 100% agree with you and your last post. It was just so good and accurate. Again, no sarcasm in this

Sorry if I quoted all your points they were really good points to this Discussion so I just had to quote them.
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