What I said had nothing to do with you putting your foot down. I was suggesting ways to get there because I know you won't change your opinion. I also said the page 350 thing because I thought it would be good to apply at a fixed time because if we still haven't changed to your likings by then, it's probably never going to happen, and from there on we would only go to look worse as time progressed. Seriously how is saying lets get banners, change our ranks, give people war perms and add a member going against you. Kind of annoying how my opinions are being taken as a kid's almost. Also if you're going to keep denying my let's apply attitude stop telling me we can apply at this page, just to make me look stupid when I suggest it.