Discussing is ok as long as its friendly. Well maybe changing topic? looks like we really got into this one lol. Ill wait to see what mat thinks about this tho.

Also I forgot to choose a winner for the logo thing :/ damn me and my shitty memory I guess I will make a votation, please pm when which of them do you think deserves to win, either mat or cata, their logos are a few pagesearlier, too lazy to put them there, I will choose once I have 5 votes.