Originally Posted by Mack

Even though it's pretty much a lost cause at this point, I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about. Doing a little jump before the round off is nothing different than doing it without. I'm also gonna assume you meant frontflip instead of backflip (Maybe proof read your posts before posting). I also never did jump to get the round off itself. I jumped just to get a setup for it as toribash limits you from the real world by alot. Things like these make me wish you could get criticism from people who actually know what they are talking about here. I don't like making posts like these at all so I hope we can just end this discussion here because it's obvious you don't know what you're doing. Cheers.