Originally Posted by
SmallBowl
What Im saying is that he was not influenced by the modern day form of Islam most Muslims in modern day society follow. Im not saying he wasnt influenced by a form of Islam, but that it is important to say it was extreme, fundamental Islam.
I did not say he was not a Muslim either, modern day Islam - rather than extreme fundamentalist Islam - does not support the same things and is not in essence a bad thing at all.
I brought up IS because thats the terror group he pledged allegience to when he did the attack. Its pretty blatant that thats the group that influenced him, which makes it very relevant to your post.
Firstly, there is no good islam and bad islam, nor is there modern day islam. There is only one book which people follow in various degrees of fundamentalism. Modern day islam is just basically being a bad muslim. Muslims who have lived in western countries have adopted western ideals of freedom, liberty and acceptance. That is not a credit to islam as a religion, that is credited to literally removing aspects of that faith. Holding on to all the barbaric ideals that quran holds, is literally the truest nature of islam.
That is the same that has been done to christianity in the west, watered it down to suit the capitalistic libertarian ideals of the 20th and 21th century.
I'd dare to say people of saudi arabia are pretty "modern", is islam there moderate? Just because you like it better doesn't make it any more valid interpretation of islam than al qaedas. No...you will not be able to show islam as a positive or even an irrelevant force in this discussion.
And yeah, bringing up IS wasn't irrelevant, my bad.
Last edited by cowmeat; Jun 14, 2016 at 10:22 AM.