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I'm equally scared of Trump and Clinton foreign policy wise - Hillary Clinton is on the books as currently wanting a "No-fly Zone" in Syria, was a driving force behind Libya and was completely against any Iran talks before they were proven to be effective (after which she changed her stance). Trump on the other hand... the guy is so reactionary and petty nothing would surprise me. Not only that, but he's also on the books as supporting torture even "if it doesn't work" and wants to "go after their families;" referring to suspected terrorists. Nothing like turning the good ole' USA into a terror state in order to... fight... terrorism? wait.. something's wrong here....

With NATO forces moving up towards Russian borders, this isn't the time that I really want either of them in charge of a military.

The only outstanding thing that scares me about Trump is any possible supreme court positions he'd be able to nominate people to. His energy plan is shit but... that's 4 years and we can backpedal on that. His tax plan is also shit, but we can backpedal on that too (I sincerely doubt either of them would get reelected for a second term - but maybe I put too much faith in the American people).

All things considered I'd just say fuck it and stick it to the American establishment by telling everyone I know to vote 3rd party. Imo Trump and Hillary are almost equally bad (with exception maybe to supreme court picks on the Trump side - not that any Hillary picks would be by any means good), so we might as well TRY to bring more attention to the current third parties and hopefully get them on more state ballots next election and/or a larger share of the votes. I see this election as an opportunity to prepare for a bumpy ride and vote your passions instead of your fears, because in this election it might actually mean something. (5% of the popular vote in this election gives parties federal funding next election - and the more exposure for the Libertarian and Green parties the better). There's always the hope that enough people can be swayed to put either Johnson or Stein in the debates, which would give them serious attention and support.
Last edited by pouffy; Jun 26, 2016 at 04:39 AM.