Originally Posted by
wibblefox
So uh, just to be clear. You are unironically advocating a stricter policy than Trumps while simultaneously denouncing his policy as racist? *bloodymess*
No, Im not, Im saying his proposal achieves nothing without being stricter - however I dont think it should be implemented at all, nor the stricter version
Yeah, pretty stupid mate. Maybe you should go read the article.
Good thing I have :) it quite clearly says no muslims are able to immigrate.
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More like "kek" because further in your post you count that attack as being native and I call you out on it.
inb4 damage control.
More like kek because you got called out and there was a valid reason to count it as not stopped given that 1 attacker is enough for an attack.
Yes, you are, and above you even started claiming that holiday goers should be blocked too, something outside the scope of Trumps plan.
Honestly your argument is so contradictory at this point that you are arguing opposites within the same post.
No, Im saying his proposal achieves nothing without being stricter - however I dont think it should be implemented at all, nor the stricter version.
Lol damage control detected, called that.
If your argument relies 100% on speculation, then it's not a very strong argument to say the least.
Im not seeing it, but wow you must be a genius to have called something would be in the post while the whole post was infront of you :O.
inb4 you have another picture of the trump article.
It's the same group, but sure I let you count them.
(Then bitched about the fact I counted them).
I only counted attacks in the west since we were talking about the west, I specifically said "Ignoring the 100 or so that happened in the middle east of course"... There was also a lot in Africa FYI but like I said we are talking about the west.
If you want to expand the discussion to the middle east I am happy to but just so you know, there were a LOT of attacks so you are only going to weaken your argument by admitting that they exist...
You were only counting attacks in the West, but said I was dishonest for not counting Istanbul. Turkey isnt a Western country.
Slippery slope fallacy - just because the USA temporarily blocks immigrants doesn't mean everyone else will.
And purposeful ignorance - Trump wants to TEMPORARILY block immigration so that an effective system can be set up to stop terrorists slipping through. Don't act like he wants to stop immigration altogether.
Yeah with temporarily being as vague as possible.
He does want to stop muslim immigration altogether though????
Do you have functioning eyes? I've already addressed this a number of times.
Called it
1. The article is about immigration.
2. The shut down is only until a solution can be found.
For God's sake, can't you see the absolutely huge bolded heading? Don't you realise you are copy pasting that quote with half the sentence cut off?
This is what I was responding to. Whether it is only immigration or whether it is temporary is entirely irrelevant to the response. I dont even know why you put that, its not relevant.
He did originally intend to ban all muslims from entering the country, thats what the article says, its pretty fucking clear. I am talking about immigration, he pledged to stop all muslim immigrants, whether or not they were from a problem area, i.e. a muslim from Norway would be affected the same as one from Syria, which is where the problem lies, and why there is an issue.
Buzzfeed? Who the hell is tricking you with clickbait?!
It was actually Donald Trump's website! They tricked me with their propoganda and patriotic chest beating!!
Well apart from literally the title if you can understand context.
It's like you read a statement saying "Rock originated in the 40s" and automatically assumed that they are talking about minerals, then you made a huge ranting post about how rocks are actually much older than that, all without reading the title "The History of Rock Music". Seriously, the title says "MUSLIM IMMIGRATION" in huge bold letters. How are you not seeing this?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Originally Posted by SmallBowl
I am talking about immigration, and have been the entire time, its been pretty clear
After spending a lot of time not talking about immigration and pretending that you can't even read the word "immigration", what is the context of this statement?
Everything I have said refers to immigration, Im not talking about holiday makers at all, other than when I said his proposal would be useless as a result of ignoring holiday makers