Originally Posted by
cowmeat
Firstly, no game becomes an e-sport without a massive casual player base.
We have a super small player base. Trying to make TB an "esport" is never going to happen.
I certainly want some competitiveness to the game but let's not go down the Esport discussion path. There are more than enough reasons why TB will never be an esport within the game itself not even talking about the playerbase.
The reason why TB doesn't keep players isn't because "People want esports", it's because of the nature of this game. Only a few people want to grind a game like this enough to be so good at it that it starts to be viable to compete in.
A game where you have to play a thousand games before there is enough skill involved to even have a resemblance of competition, is a bit hard to make into a popular one.
It's an old game that will die almost completely in the next few years. Let's keep making it better and implement these good ideas. But let's also not have grand delusions of bringing thousands of people into the game because of a good matchmaking system.
Thank you. See Fist, someone here is telling you the same as whole #toribash channel.
I've spend last three days explaining why certain things aren't going to work in a game like Toribash yet Fist fails to understand / read. Always better to quote something barely related to the discussion than an actual explanation of why tier pools won't work or tiers won't make ranking instantly great if the only thing that they affect is what's being displayed - your rank or an icon.
I still stand by my words anyway, only people with no idea about game development can think you can make any game better by adding some feature from a big successful game with no tweaking - because audience, number of players, game genre and all the other stuff obviously don't matter.
A new Steam build was pushed yesterday, you can see the current number of players searching for a fight now. Minimized matchmaking button has changed, too.