Originally Posted by
Oracle
There are so many possible topics under modern feminism that people could be debating, yet almost universally everybody in this thread who has argued against modern feminism has basically just said "lul feminazis fuck em" as if the radical portion is all there is to modern feminism.
I'm sure you're not referring to my posts!!
The 'feminazis' are the loudest group of feminists by far, which may be why the legitimate 1st-world feminist issues are ignored by most people, and why people identify 'feminazi' perspectives as the current hegemonic 1st-world feminist narrative. I'm fairly certain this is true.
If modern feminism wasn't perceived by everyone to be utterly insane, more people would label themselves feminists. You ask people if they support equality of the sexes and you get super high percentage, you ask that same group of people if they consider themselves feminist and there's a
massive drop-off. Similar studies to the one I've linked have been conducted in different 1st world countries, all with similar results.
Turns out being a shrieking feminazi/extremist turns people away from your ideology, rather than converts them.
So really, I don't think the fault lies with larger society for not parsing feminazi feminism from the rest of feminism - rather, the fault lies with the actual feminazis themselves (and to a lesser extent, the rest of the 'sane' feminists who clearly aren't being loud enough to lead the modern 1st-World feminist narrative).
I could say a similar thing with Islam. The narrative of Islam is that they're terrorists who want us dead. This narrative comes about from a relatively (w.r.t the entire Islamic world) small amount of extremist Islamic adherents, yet they are so loud - Loud enough that we have to remind people that #notallmuslims are terrorists.
The loudest group creates the dominant narrative. Usually, outside forces will have a very hard time changing that narrative, so the changing of the narrative has to start from within (meaning it's up to sane feminists to battle the feminazis, and it's up to the non-'death-oriented' Muslims to battle the terrorists).
Last edited by Ele; Oct 22, 2017 at 01:39 AM.