Originally Posted by
Pouffy
The sub-feeder-clan thing could be easily moderated (like this!) but no doubt people would throw a stink over that (like this!).
As for my actual point in that paragraph, there's no good way to moderate the number of sub-clans without discriminating in some way: whether that's first-come-first-serve (bullshit), or some sort of "top three" (also bullshit). Without controlling their number in some way, you open the community up into being stratified into a few different clans, really removing the heart from much of the community.
Allowing sub-clans isn't a slippery slope, it's a gate protecting the community from these sort of almost predatory clans, and it's disappointing to see you to cry wolf like that to defend some bullshit.
As for my other points: Im actually right. (see basic agrees)
Do what? Firstly, no one is trying to moderate the number of subclans. Thats like trying to moderate the number of unofficial clans in this game, which there is no limit to, and there are no requirements to make them anymore. Literally everyone could have their own clan. No one cares about the number of clans here.
Then saying if you don't moderate the number of subclans the community will be basically divided into only a few different clans? How is this even possible? Do you see how many clans there are in this community, official and unofficial alike? The best part about having a community is the freedom to choose whatever you want to do. No one forces anyone to join any clan. Having subclans will not destroy the rest of the clans. Do you think having subclans will just absolutely stop everyone from joining the already existing clans? No, people will join whichever clan they want to be apart of. If someone likes the people and feelings of another clan, they will obviously join that clan over another, regardless of what the clan is, they will be with their friends.
Also, predatory clans? We are not actively aggresively hunting down new players in the game. Subclans still have requirements and application processes. They still deny people. They dont just go send an invite to everyone in the toribash community. That's what you're not seeing here. If an unofficial clan, pick any of them, starts not getting members, its obviously not because 'Oh that there clan is a subclan, a very predatory clan. My clan will obviously fail'. Thats not how that works. There is a reason no one is interested in that unofficial clan and why a lot of unofficial clans die out, because they are shit, and ran by people who have no clue or experience running a clan. Just because someone else comes along who has the experience and ability to run another clan better shouldn't be a factor.