Originally Posted by
duck
We wanted to change that because those checks really should be there to ensure that the official clans we have, the ones that set a standard for others to come, are actually up to a standard.
We debated on the criteria and came up with what we see as still passable, yet more strict than what we had before.
It wasnt that the old checks were too lenient though. The formula for the old checks was in-fact, adjusted while I was back in clan staff to do just what you said, make official clans set a 'standard'. The problem isn't the leniency of the checks, it's that CLAN MODS and CLAN ADMINS were lazy as fuck and rarely ran the updated checks.
Go back and check through the clan staff board and check my latest created thread in it (back when Faint was admin). It's me complaining about how there hadn't been a check in ages and for admin/mods to pull their socks up. Faint disagreed vehemently and I was kicked from Clan Staff for that (after we exchanged 'fuck offs') and given a usernote that says never to hire me again. This is a relevant lil' anecdote because...
The issue is not the efficacy of the former tests in not setting a proper 'standard', the issue is that lazy clan staff didn't bother running them. It's really not a chore - 40 minutes work (if that) for the before and after check, run twice yearly. This is not a lot of work, especially considering that clan staff do pretty much nothing all the time - It is, by far, the smallest workload out of all staff (unless you're a lazy smod).
The former man-run checks kept the standard - We adjusted them over the years to make sure they weren't too lenient. The only hiccup was high clan staff eventually got lazy and complacent and didn't run the checks.
Rather than invent a tool that just allows clan staff to be even more lazy (do even less work), simply run the previous checks according to the schedule they were designed to be run on. Boom. You now have a legit standard for officialness (and you don't have the entire community rallying against you).
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It surprises me that there's been this much backlash and this is still happening.
Last edited by Ele; Jul 22, 2018 at 03:02 AM.