Originally Posted by Smaguris
No, it most definitely wouldn't be.
I don't see how you think it won't be, you didn't provide much of an explanation here. The forum contains copyright material, music, art, etc. So it will likely be affected in some way as would other media platforms (Meaning they'll be liable for the copyrighted content on their platform).
Originally Posted by Smaguris
You've been completely mislead by regurgitated information and I can almost guarantee you didn't look further than that.
I've actually read the specific amendments of Article 13 a while ago and know the basic implications of it. If you'd like to read it over again you can find it
HERE. The amendments and added content is bold for your reading pleasure.
Originally Posted by Smaguris
As for Article 13, it is mainly concerned with media, like videos, images, and music, so games don't even fall under that category.
Games are legally categorized as an art, so yes they would fall under that category. (
Source There are plenty more if you search)
Originally Posted by Smaguris
Even if it did though, Toribash would clearly be safe because it is not distributed through social media or by p2p(peer to peer) network.
Yea I agree, the game itself would be safe. It could be argued that the multiplayer aspects might come under fire but that seems like a pretty stupid argument to make to me.
Originally Posted by Smaguris
That's most likely not gonna be the case. Legislation explicitly states that the article is only concerned about literature, images, videos, etc. Video of a game does not fall under that category because it does not capture another video or other type of media.
Again games are considered an art, which is a type of media, from a legal standpoint.
Originally Posted by Smaguris
For the sake of a discussion let's assume it would though. As far as I know Article 13 will rely on AI to handle filtering of the contents.
The EU doesn't magically make an AI sort through everything, Article 13 just allows the copyright owners to take legal action against the platform that is hosting the unwanted use of their material. I believe you're getting this confused with the
statement Youtube made and how big content creators have been saying that Youtube will be banned in the entire EU due to Youtube's copyright AI not being able to sort through all the content posted to Youtube in any given moment and be able to, with 100% accuracy, sort out all the copyright material.
Originally Posted by Smaguris
As long as Toribash is included in the "greylist" any video should pass with no problem, and it would be included in the grelyist on default unless Nabi studios had a specific statement saying that they do not want their product being recorded (which obviously wouldn't make sense).
Again the EU doesn't magically make an AI to sort through everything, copyright owners are responsible for this themselves so this "Greylist" doesn't exist. I do agree that Nabi not wanting their content recorded would be stupid though.
Originally Posted by Smaguris
I think most of you aren't aware of current copyright laws. Article 13 does not bring any change to current laws regarding games or recording of games. It is heavily focused on images, videos and music shared on social media
I think at this point I've proven I know at least the basics of how copyright laws are handled. Article 13 does bring PLENTY of changes to how copyrights are handled, the specifics of what is copyright infringement hasn't changed again it's just how said infringement will be handled. The individual person won't be have legal action taken against them, the PLATFORM that is hosting said content will be. Article 13 "protects" many things, including art which games legally fall under.
Originally Posted by Smaguris
The only thing you should be concerned about is that memes will be flagged down as infringed content because AI won't be able to distinguish between different variations of a meme. It does not concern this game. It does not concern this website. Please stop
Blah blah blah the EU hasn't built some magic AI to sort through everything blah blah copyright owners responsible blah blah. It does concern the game and the website as I've proven. If you'd like to disprove me I'd more then welcome it as I love to hear other's views on topics like this.
Last edited by Seth; Dec 6, 2018 at 03:05 PM.