Originally Posted by wibblefox
We previously established that their net impact on the economy is negative though, even if you use them as indentured slaves...
The key part of the question was the single biggest threat to the US, whether it is overall negative or not or doubtful, but this part of the claim is the part Im challenging in particular
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Originally Posted by Mallymkun
Any country would be more than sensible to close its borders while Islam continues to spread its plague across the globe. Treat it as a non-issue and the same will happen to America, as it has happened in both France and Germany.
Neither France or Germany is a poor country.
Smoking in both countries (and america) is a far bigger killer than terrorist attacks in what way are illegal immigrants worse for the countries than smoking?
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Originally Posted by Mallymkun
So?
Originally Posted by Mallymkun
the same will happen to America, as it has happened in both France and Germany.
Fuck kind of comparison is that. I don't know why I bother debating here anymore.
Its a very valid comparison, I assume the reason you dont want illegal muslim immigrants is the threat of terrorism, it seems very far fetched to call that the biggest problem in these countries when its death toll is incomparable to many other problems the countries face.
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Originally Posted by wibblefox
My comment was in regards to the assertion that "illegal immigrant workers help the US economy as much as they do" which we previously discussed and concluded was false because even though they may have some positive impact they have a net negative impact.
Im pretty sure you discussed that with Pouffy not me, I havent read it - I plan on reading that part of your discussion later, but I find it extremely hard to believe that they have an overall negative effect considering how much they underpin large swathes of the agricultural sectors of american business
It implies a false dichotomy. Smoking is bad, terrorism is bad, we can get rid of both hopefully. Would blocking immigration increase smoking? No. Then why should we worry about smoking when we talk about immigration.
I don't believe that Mallymkun ever endorsed smoking.
Originally Posted by Mallymkun
Illegal immigration is the biggest threat to the US at the moment.
He stated that illegal immigration was a bigger issue than smoking, which is the claim I am challenging.
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Uh.....
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257528.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
Dude, what the fuck are you on? The threat of terrorism to the United States is basically nil. I realize the motor accidents stat is from 2013, but that number is more or less the same for 2015.
I haven't looked up the exact number of terrorism deaths for europe but i'd guess around 500ish. 200-2000 for a wide estimate
Just thought I'd also say that although pig likes to say we established that illegal immigrants are a net negative, that's not only untrue in terms of how our conversation progressed but also untrue in the sense that our conversation could never actually establish something like that as certain unless we crunched numbers.
At best, based on our back and forth, it's arguable.
Stop being disingenuous, pig.
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257528.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
Dude, what the fuck are you on? The threat of terrorism to the United States is basically nil. I realize the motor accidents stat is from 2013, but that number is more or less the same for 2015.
I haven't looked up the exact number of terrorism deaths for europe but i'd guess around 500ish. 200-2000 for a wide estimate
Just thought I'd also say that although pig likes to say we established that illegal immigrants are a net negative, that's not only untrue in terms of how our conversation progressed but also untrue in the sense that our conversation could never actually establish something like that as certain unless we crunched numbers.
At best, based on our back and forth, it's arguable.
Stop being disingenuous, pig.
Last edited by pouffy; Aug 28, 2016 at 12:24 AM.
