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A Corporation is running for Congress.
Well, this one is more directed at people from the US, but anyone is welcome to discuss this.

Recently The United States Supreme Court decided to do away with a very old, yet most would say very wise law that barred corporations from becoming involved in political matters. Basically, the law made it illegal for a corporation to publicly back any candidate, so in a nutshell McDonalds cant run commercials for someone who wants to be the president. This was a very good thing, in my opinion, because basically without this law in place the American Government becomes that much more for sale.

Think about it, here are bitchin pics to help...

O-|-< here we have politician A. He is well liked by his party, and has a decent following among the general population.

O-|-< This is politician B. He is also well liked by his party and as well has a decent following among every day folks.

O-|-< here we have politician C. This guy is the odd man out, comparable to the Green party, his party is tiny, and his following among every day people is very slim. This is the last you will see of polictian C, but I included him to make it more realistic.

(\/)[ This is the logo of a very large, and very wealthy corporation. This corporation is lead by a man who sympathisez strongly with Politician A. So, the corporation than decides that it will use its vast sums of money to create an all out advertising slut fest in support of politician A. Now, once the slut fest has begun, there are commercials, expensive, convincing television adds supporting politician A and bashing Mr. B. The corporation even makes a movie that plays as two hours of "Politician B is a retard" and it is run on ABC prime time all throughout primary's.

Who has the better chance of winning?

Well, as a sort of act of defiance against this possibility, one corporation has decided to run for public office. Playing on the view held by the law that a corporation is "a person"

look.

Tell me what you think.
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Originally Posted by m0o View Post
This kind of thing has been going on for ages (Obama for example payed the most on marketing etc and won, Kevin Rudd had Kevin 07 - but honestly I think in the case of Rudd it was more a distaste for some of the choices made by his main opponent).

Yeah, I know. Depending on the situation you could say lobbyists control the country. This is just extra shity because its like the supreme court said "Go ahead, pay the fuckers off." and now I think we will see politics go into even worse place than it has been for the passed however many decades.

Also who the fuck is Kevin Rudd?..I have this feeling that once I find out I will feel retarded for not knowing, but eh, Im too lazy to google atm.
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Originally Posted by Chac View Post
well there goes all your credibility as a serious debater, i hope odlov will take notes

Ah. Know of any srs debaters i should take notes from?
Originally Posted by Rutten View Post
I'll be serious when I feel an issue requires seriousness.

please leave my thread :|Now we are at page two with only like 3 posts that are actually on topic, and not either you trolling or someone focusing on you trolling, like this post.
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Originally Posted by Megadoomer View Post
What's next? Bribing police to get away with anything you want? Honestly, the other majority of congress should just shut it down


They can't. Since this was based off of court case, congress and senate and even the President cant really do anything yet. Kind of a HUGE GAPING flaw in the whole checks and balances thing that is supposed to keep shit like this (that the majority of the country disagrees with) from happening. Hopefully something will done, but since this is politics, it will no doubt take a long time, and end up being slightly disappointing if not worse.

here is about more about the details.
Last edited by deady; Feb 8, 2010 at 02:17 AM.
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Originally Posted by m0o View Post
Australian prime minister bro

oooooooh, ok. Need to read up on my world affairs it seems >.>. Does "but I'm American and none of know anything about anything other than America" qualify as a valid excuse?

Originally Posted by Oyster View Post
Also, I'm very, very surprised that this bill got passed under the U.S.'s liberal legislative branch, with a Democratic majority in both the House and the Senate.

It wasn't a bill. It was the result of a supreme court case about This film and its intended airing on NCB.
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Originally Posted by CharredLightning View Post
So before I start,let me get this straight,'cause I'm quite slow.

They're now allowing corporations to sponsor people running for power?
or is it the other way around?

Well, it depends on what you mean by "sponsor". Corporations are still limited in how much they can directly give to a candidate, so they cant technically fund a campaign.

What they can do though is "independently" voice their "opinion" on who should win. So, they cant put money directly into anyones pocket, but they can now spend as much money as they like promoting the candidate, which in effect nullifies the rule about direct contributions.

The reason they did this is because, in US law a corporation is considered a "person" because it "represents a group of people." and since every person in the US has basic given rights, the logic is that these "people"/ corporations should be given those same right, namely free speech.

So its like they are saying "you cant bribe people, unless you use this giant loop hole which lets you bribe people indirectly." and obviously the reason that is a terrible thing is because this will only lead to further possibilities for corruption in politics.
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Yeah, they do that sort of thing. I am one of those pseudo revolutionaries who believe that corporations are a HUGE part of most of the worlds problems, so this whole thing is really sickening me...I still like google though.
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