Toribash
Original Post
Create Incentive for Veterans to Play
Pretty simple suggestion: there's nothing really appealing out there for people to earn in Toribash once they've hit 20,000 Qi. It's clear that this lack of promotional opportunities for Veteran players has an impact in their activity, or complete lack thereof.

The closest thing custom belts can talk about "achieving" or "earning" in Toribash is of course "God Belt"; however, that small cosmetic change isn't enough because custom belts can simply change their belt name on a whim to "God Belt" without any problem. That, and one three letter word is hardly a consolation for 30,000 more games to be played.

If you're here to agree or disagree that this is in fact an issue, please post. Additionally, this thread could be used to brainstorm suggestions for what exactly would serve as an incentive for Custom Belts to keep playing.


Some "stream of consciousness" suggestions from the top of my head:

1) Exclusive colors for 30,000/40,000/50,000 games played.
2) Custom made 3D Objects for 30k/40k/50k games played.


It's fiscally reasonable to create incentive for players to move on for thousands and thousands more games. The longer they stay here in Toribash, the more likely they'll throw money at the game. And although it'll never happen under the current people who are in charge of this- it'd be leaps and bounds better if these Objects/etc. can't in anyway be purchased or transferred.
Last edited by Bodhisattva; Oct 18, 2014 at 12:23 AM.
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I don't want a incentative to play anymore. Don't. Add. Such. A. Foolish. Thing. ..

Really it's a meh idea, much like the QI restrictions.
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This is an idea I can definitely support, the game has been progressively getting more boring for me ever since I hit custom, and what raaage mentioned with the button to explode your tori, definitely something worth implementing for entertainment purposes.
Custom color....ugh...don't we have joint textures for that?
The fact is that there is almost nothing to get in the game once u go custom. U know how to earn tc so you can buy mostly everything. Mostly, some items are still prety hard to get.
So i've come up with this idea, that won't have any impact on economy or whatever.
Once u get 30k games u should get for free all the textures in the game ( full 512, full 512 joints, icon, etc) BUT these items should have a 30k qi limit, so they can only be traded between +30k qi players. I think 50k games kinda pushes things to far...
This would be somthing to chase for...still a ful 512 joints set is +1kk
and it takes a lot to get 10k more games, like the leap from 10dan to custom, it takes ages.
I think this would deffinately be somthing that everybody would like to have...full customization (all textures available)
Maybe add somthing on 40k and 50k treshold.
At 40k games u could get all full color sets with a 40k qi limit
at 50k u could get all items in the game with a 50k qi limit, or somthing like that. or maybe 3d items and hats etc for 40k and full color sets for 50k. But i think that the textures are more appealing and more people could go as high as 30k games for that, 40k and 50k games is a little to much for normal people...

You are totally right Hax, toribash should take better care of the elders, they keep dissapearing one by one. The kung fu beard was somthing...but most people who got it were no longer playing.
I think this could be implemented, and i think it would turn some heads.
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and ofc the explode button
BOOM!!!
Last edited by Insanity; Oct 14, 2014 at 12:12 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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Originally Posted by Insanity View Post
Custom color....ugh...don't we have joint textures for that?
The fact is that there is almost nothing to get in the game once u go custom. U know how to earn tc so you can buy mostly everything. Mostly, some items are still prety hard to get.
So i've come up with this idea, that won't have any impact on economy or whatever.
Once u get 30k games u should get for free all the textures in the game ( full 512, full 512 joints, icon, etc) BUT these items should have a 30k qi limit, so they can only be traded between +30k qi players. I think 50k games kinda pushes things to far...
BOOM!!!

What is the point in this? By the time you have reached 30,000 games you will already have everything (as you said). Why would you want everything again when you cannot even sell it?
This would only benifit those who have 30,000 QI who just noob bashed 100 games a day and are so bad they cannot duel or do other means to earn the TC to purchase full 512 etc.
Originally Posted by Insanity View Post
Custom color....ugh...don't we have joint textures for that?
The fact is that there is almost nothing to get in the game once u go custom. U know how to earn tc so you can buy mostly everything. Mostly, some items are still prety hard to get.
So i've come up with this idea, that won't have any impact on economy or whatever.
Once u get 30k games u should get for free all the textures in the game ( full 512, full 512 joints, icon, etc) BUT these items should have a 30k qi limit, so they can only be traded between +30k qi players. I think 50k games kinda pushes things to far...
This would be somthing to chase for...still a ful 512 joints set is +1kk
and it takes a lot to get 10k more games, like the leap from 10dan to custom, it takes ages.
I think this would deffinately be somthing that everybody would like to have...full customization (all textures available)
Maybe add somthing on 40k and 50k treshold.
At 40k games u could get all full color sets with a 40k qi limit
at 50k u could get all items in the game with a 50k qi limit, or somthing like that. or maybe 3d items and hats etc for 40k and full color sets for 50k. But i think that the textures are more appealing and more people could go as high as 30k games for that, 40k and 50k games is a little to much for normal people...

You are totally right Hax, toribash should take better care of the elders, they keep dissapearing one by one. The kung fu beard was somthing...but most people who got it were no longer playing.
I think this could be implemented, and i think it would turn some heads.
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and ofc the explode button
BOOM!!!

I like what insanity said here. The people who reach out have reached 30k qi could get a free textures but they are qi restricted. When I first started playing I listened more or less to the people with colorful or amazing items. I think many people would be like this and give respect to the elders of this game.
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Originally Posted by FistofLife View Post
What is the point in this? By the time you have reached 30,000 games you will already have everything (as you said). Why would you want everything again when you cannot even sell it?
This would only benifit those who have 30,000 QI who just noob bashed 100 games a day and are so bad they cannot duel or do other means to earn the TC to purchase full 512 etc.

idk how many custom belts have 2kk worth of items on them...most never had one million probably...or who would actually keep that ammount of tc in items. It's every kids dream to have cool items. And highbelts can show-off like frost says. It may encurage people to play more. Anyway, it's just one idea.
I, for one, would love a full 512 joints, full 512, 512 ground, icon, full bumpmaps, fpt, dq texture, full gui, full trails, full sounds...I never get to have all these items because i either sell the tc or duel it, or waste it...
Last edited by Insanity; Oct 14, 2014 at 01:43 AM.
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The intent of the suggestion is to give people incentive to play more games / give a crap about playing after hitting custom belt. Giving them items that they had access to (even if they couldn't afford them before) does nothing to solve that. The items need to be something others cannot get by purchasing No-Qi versions of it, and requiring 30k, 40k, 50k, 60k Qi etc etc.

3D Object seems to be the best outlet because we have an entire volunteer staff group dedicated towards creating them, it gives them a large creative license, and it doesn't ruin the existing economy. Without going into detail I'm aware that many items have remained unreleased that have been talented designed and even textured they just haven't been put into market. Slapping some high QI restrictions to those would be a start. Make them cost a bunch of TC if you want and let us sink more TC out of the economy buying them from Torishop? Win win.
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Drhax, agree 100%. I am a 10th dan and haven't gotten anything special for 2 years of playing. Toribash needs more... ...stuff. Those options listed are pretty nice. It just feels like this is just too much though. Doubt it will happen.
Last edited by WAPOW; Oct 14, 2014 at 02:19 AM.
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I know this is late to post but I don't think I have seen it suggested yet but I was thinking what about a forum change for example http://gyazo.com/77ae70a280f74e9f200b8ef0661883bc <--That thingy that pops up on your post becomes a different colour for belts after 10th dan and as your belt goes up it changes to a designated colour and say if you got god belt something cooler happened to it or something along those lines. (Sorry this looks good in my head but I'm finding it hard to put it into words)


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Most suggestions aren't implemented because the opportunity cost of making the suggestion is more expensive than the profits of said suggestion. Rarely are updates made to Toribash that are exclusively to make players happy, outside of say bug fixes which are just necessary to even run a game.

Even if we keep with that popular tradition, I'd argue this suggestion's opportunity cost is less than how much Nabi makes by implementing incentives for high qi players to remain active.

It's pretty simple: it isn't the brown belts buying TC to duel away, hosting betting servers, or buying 300k Texture sets made by photoshop/mudbox animals. The longer the player stays in Toribash, the likelihood of them giving real currency into the game increases substantially. Yes that curve drops off at around 5th Dan or so, but that's probably because by then they've decided to buy No Qi Demon/Void because… well Nabi made that an option. Regardless, 6th 7th 8th 9th through custom and above are far more likely to buy 200k or joint texture sets than white belts through 3rd Dans. While content exists for every belt from white to custom, there is an immediate and horrendous drop off to an abyss of nothingness once you've hit 20,000 Qi. If this were 2008, I could understand this being a minor oversight that is fixed ASAP because they couldn't have predicted people reaching more than custom belt, let alone feasibly hitting God belt. But we've had players hit God Belt over 4 years ago now, and still the 30,000 Qi gap between them and customs, along with anything above them, has absolutely no reward. Which makes zero sense not just because they are your most loyal customers, not just because they had to play tens of thousands of games rather than say just 1,000 games to reach their next reward, but because fiscally, they are a great deal more likely to support you financially than the newer players.


So just incase the point was lost in all of that:

1) Players who play loads of games are more likely to spend $$$ on Toribash
2) Crafting reasons for players to play loads of games will increase them playing loads of games.

therefore

3) Making incentives to play loads of games = Nabi Studios getting more money.


The best part of this suggestion though, is what it would take to make it happen. This requires no economic cost. Hampa wouldn't have to hire independent developers nor pay current developers to develop anything new. We have an entire dedicated volunteer artistic community ready to develop these items (who, in fact, volunteered specifically to make items) that could make this happen in less than a week. We have another completely volunteer based market group that could make sure the prices are appropriate. Oh and did I mention that these rewards probably won't be free? I think I did. Case I didn't- yeah they probably won't be free. Which means you're getting even more TC sunk from the economy.




It pleases the fans and veterans, it acknowledges the hard work of those who have worked hard, it removes TC out of the Torieconomy, it gives more things for newer players to look forward to, it doesn't cost a dime to make happen, it could be done and over with in less than a week, we already have dedicated volunteers to work on it, and it makes Toribash (Nabi Studios) money in the long run. If this isn't a passable suggestion I really don't know what is.
Last edited by Bodhisattva; Oct 15, 2014 at 06:45 AM.
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