Not sure what this guy wants us to discuss. Does he want us to discuss his 11 points? Does he want us to explain what we think the meaning of life is (which we've done before)? If he could post here and tell us that'd be great. Is this even about the meaning of life or more broadly 'what is life'... The PM doesn't really explain.
I'm procrastinating an assignment, so I'll comment on the 11 'theories' about the meaning of life (or 'what is life'... Whatever the question is).
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1 - Always I wondered why beggars do not commit suicide, since they live in such terrible conditions. But even in such conditions they have a very strong desire to live. I used to wonder why we live? And I realized that in fact no one wants to die. Neither beggars nor the ants fighting for their lives because what really matters is our journey.
I don't understand what point is being made here. The meaning of life is to live because nobody wants to die? Ok.
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2 - The question itself is the answer: we are living. We are living to live, not to stay alive. Life is like a natural wave that comes from a distant, unknown place and move on, to reach the beach and get lost, or rather, mix with what we are seeking in our lives. Some waves are big and powerful, some small, some nerve, millions of different waves moving along this unknown ocean of millions of other people who are going for the same goal.
'We are living to live, not to stay alive'. That's some Deepak Chopra level mysticism right there. What does that mean? Ignoring the sermon about waves, does all this just mean that we shouldn't just be trying to subsist, but rather we should try to live every moment to its fullest? Is that what is meant by 'living' and not merely 'staying alive'?
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Not sure if this response answers the question because for me there is no question.
If you don't know the question and I don't know the question, wtf is going on here?!
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3 - We live to explorer new things, places and experiences.
Ok - Seems like the 'live life to the fullest' point.
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4 - We live because of humanity, to help others, make people happy and to be happy too.
The past thousands of years of war and violence would likely beg to differ.
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5b) Life is a natural phenomenon that is inevitable in certain circumstances and lasts as long as those conditions continue to exist. And we are only asking this question because we have developed the ability to consider such things.
Yeah, I'd agree but... What question? Wasn't there no question?
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6 - Life exists because it is life. That sounds stupid to consider life from a point of view that is not the human being. The other Earth million specious seek a reason to live or they just live?
Pasta exists because it is pasta. Zebras exist because they are Zebras. God exists because it is God. I don't buy this line of logic. The only this that 'A is A' ('The Law of Identity') tells us is that existence exists. What it doesn't do is provide us with any answers as to why existence exists - All it tells us is that it does.
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7 - The scientific community says that life on Earth - or anywhere else - it's just a miraculous accident. But as I know you want a philosophical explanation, here's one: Life is a highly complex issue because it has many uncertain answers. One may say that God created, so there is life and so on.
'We exist because God'. This is an especially poor point.
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8.We live because we were born and we adapt to the conditions. And the answer to "Why are we alive" is that life was created on Earth because the conditions were favorable to the existence of life. Sorry, I could not make a more spiritual response.
Isn't this just point 5b again?
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9 - We humans are on a secret mission to destroy all the natural resources of the planet. If you are wondering why you are not aware of this secret mission, then you are not alone. Aliens in programmed to believe that we are developing and deteriorating health of the planet is only a small price for it. And if I'm wrong about this secret mission, so that the ratio of humans to exploit both their home planet, which are supposed to live another few billion years?
Finally, a sensible argument.
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10 - We live because life is worth living. Dying brings us to anything. Unless there are real, concrete evidence of the existence of paradise, it is stupidity die and you may live.
Ignoring the 'dying brings us anything' part, this is a repeat of point 1.
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11 - Why not?
I don't know man, I don't even know the question...
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It would be useful if the sender of the PM could explain what this all means and what he wants discussed.