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Should we be able to use the word 'nigga' in Wibbles?
<~suomynona> ele: you're totally right about racial slurs in that post, yes.
<~suomynona> ele: Not aware of those exceptions, and I don't feel like making them for wibbles in this case.
<~suomynona> make a poll in S&I if you feel strongly about it.
I've been instructed to post here instead of the Wibbles 'Rules' thread. You can read and catch up with what's going in there (or maybe you can't, suo's moving posts to different threads). I'll briefly explain.
Currently, we are not allowed to say something like 'wuts gud ma nigga' or 'hahaha yeah nigga!' in Wibbles.
The pesky global rules say that whenever somebody says the word 'nigga', they're being racist and their post needs to be deleted/infracted. Clearly this not always the case. People can use the word 'nigga' without it being a racist attack on someone. It's all about the intent of the person using it.
So I know I, and a lot of other people, would like to be able to use that word in it's non-racist context. We're not talking about being able to use it everywhere in Toribash (the higher-ups definitely wouldn't go for that), we're just talking about letting people use it in Wibbles.
So, if you're behind this idea, vote for it in the poll. If you're not, then pick the other option.
<~suomynona> ele: Not aware of those exceptions, and I don't feel like making them for wibbles in this case.
<~suomynona> make a poll in S&I if you feel strongly about it.
I've been instructed to post here instead of the Wibbles 'Rules' thread. You can read and catch up with what's going in there (or maybe you can't, suo's moving posts to different threads). I'll briefly explain.
Currently, we are not allowed to say something like 'wuts gud ma nigga' or 'hahaha yeah nigga!' in Wibbles.
The pesky global rules say that whenever somebody says the word 'nigga', they're being racist and their post needs to be deleted/infracted. Clearly this not always the case. People can use the word 'nigga' without it being a racist attack on someone. It's all about the intent of the person using it.
So I know I, and a lot of other people, would like to be able to use that word in it's non-racist context. We're not talking about being able to use it everywhere in Toribash (the higher-ups definitely wouldn't go for that), we're just talking about letting people use it in Wibbles.
So, if you're behind this idea, vote for it in the poll. If you're not, then pick the other option.
Last edited by Ele; Oct 3, 2016 at 09:08 AM.
The 'no slurs at all in public space' rule should just be changed to 'discrimination is not tolerated and will be punished according to moderator discretion', at the end of the day I agree w/ pimp (and a lot of others) here - I'm all for punishing people who say 'fuck all niggers' but I'm nearly always looking for an excuse to not punish people for saying harmless (lets be honest it's harmless) stuff like 'that shovel opener is so gay', 'what up nig' and so forth
I wasn't staff when this rule came into place so I'm not 100% on the justification and discussion that happened to cause it to be put into place
Part of it I guess:
code:
I wasn't staff when this rule came into place so I'm not 100% on the justification and discussion that happened to cause it to be put into place
Part of it I guess:
code:
(Rai) oh yeah we had a big argument about the whole "racisum is contextual blah blah blah" like a year ago
(Rai) which it is
(Rai) but that opens up so much gray areas and opinionated judgement which makes keeping fully on toip of a subject like racism awkward
(Rai) we eventually agreed that ruling it completely out was an all around safer option
<Fear> but it doesnt work
<Fear> ppl can still be racist and homophobic without using those words for a start, plus people upset about the rules just find every grey area and edge case out there
<Fear> popular on wibbles: 'chigger' 'kigger' 'f0gats' etc.
<Fear> grey areas are still there they just moved
(Rai) you're right, but from a business stand point chigger and f0gats on a public forum is way less harmful than nigger and faggots
im pretty sure you should be able to also use the word stupid black boy, stupid white boy as a substitute from nigga or cracker
if you were to use stupid cracker, stupid nigger or nigga i could see a person getting banned since you are attacking someone but idk
if you were to use stupid cracker, stupid nigger or nigga i could see a person getting banned since you are attacking someone but idk
Wow went to hit yes and cause I'm using a phone the calibration was off. Noice XD
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Yea and why is it that other races can call us white boy's but if you even say some is black in no bad context they start screaming rascism and threaten reporting?
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Originally Posted by iTemp
im pretty sure you should be able to also use the word stupid black boy, stupid white boy as a substitute from nigga or cracker
if you were to use stupid cracker, stupid nigger or nigga i could see a person getting banned since you are attacking someone but idk
Yea and why is it that other races can call us white boy's but if you even say some is black in no bad context they start screaming rascism and threaten reporting?
Last edited by Mikes; Oct 4, 2016 at 09:07 PM.
Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
"People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public."—Bryan White
Originally Posted by ShhhMikes
Wow went to hit yes and cause I'm using a phone the calibration was off. Noice XD
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Yea and why is it that other races can call us white boy's but if you even say some is black in no bad context they start screaming rascism and threaten reporting?
Don't start that argument here. You know very well why that is and if you dont I suggest reading a book on America's black rights history. You're also exaggerating. I've never someone who has reacted that way.
On the other hand, while racism is a terrible thing, I think it's unfair to ban words completely. Prejudice, like most things, are contextual. Not being able to say nigga or faggot doesn't stop prejudice, it just stops people from using two words to convey this prejudice. The words aren't the issue, the people are.
I've known plenty of people who use these words in a non-offensive manner, and while they could use other words, why restrict them from expressing themselves the way they want to express themselves. Oh, because "people may be offended" by those words? Yes, let's just give free reign to the people who have such thin skin that they can't handle the use of one word. That's fair to the majority of people who really don't care either way.
