To be honest, I kind of forgot about the boatman. It was going to be the clan project for that event, but that fell apart, and then I just kind of threw it aside. I might do it if I remember, but I want to do this ridiculous clan picture first. Maya's been giving me a hell of a lot of problems, though. Them meshes be combining and my polygons are NURBS and my NURBS are subdivs and every time I try to add a fire or smoke effect it says that there's no destination particle and I just don't know what to do so I'm going to wait until Gubbin gets on, if he gets on, and I'll try to hassle him into helping me out.