Originally Posted by Swepples

"Maybe bring back a bit of a manual check. If a clan is in the yellow/red, check their discord. A lot of clans simply play with each other, disregarding the forum. Just check em up and see if they're talking about toribash on an active level or not. An active sparrer might actually be active in the game, just not playing enough games/posting enough on the forums for the activity check."

This is something that was considered, but ultimately dropped because of the mix of the two reasonings which made us not count it in the first place.
It's not a Toribash platform, it would be too hard to try and measure and reward discord activity, so we unfortunately won't be taking it into account then.


"This is something we have to figure out.
Post a thread asking for suggestions, and give a few perk points to the one who comes up with a decent one"

What I've described is, so far, the best way we had. If we actively get people to post in the Replays board, we can figure out a way to automatically check for replays being posted, so that should be a good way to measure SP activity.
Feel free to post in S&I if any other ideas come to mind, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Originally Posted by duck

As far as I can see, these have been the biggest points of contention with this change.

Originally Posted by Ele

There was another major point. Inactive ranks. The bot not taking inactive ranks into accounts means that some clans (primarily older clans, as it turns out) need to have more active people than others to stay official. That shouldn't be the case.

There's an easy fix to this which doesn't involve editing the automated program. All we need to do is take the clan that passed the activity check with the lowest amount of people playing and cross-reference that against all the other failing clans - If a clan fails and has the same or more people active than previously mentioned successful clan, auto-pass that failing clan.

Put simply, if a clan manages to pass with 6 people playing (by virtue of their small roster), then ANY clan that has 6 or more people playing should pass as well.

Originally Posted by duck

This honestly doesn't sound all too reasonable. A clan's activity should be measured against it's size, a 50 player clan ought to have more active players than a 10 player clan.

Originally Posted by Hattersin

I like the turn things are taking right now, glad clan mods are taking the critique, although it took way too long for this kind of communication

props to you but to contribute to the discussion, let me bring up an issue
If you push for people to post more SP replays in the replay board, don't you think that'll affect the CNC?
It'll basically be inflation with more replays, of lesser quality

Originally Posted by fallu

so what youre saying is that if we want to keep our clan we have to get rid of our old beloved friends who are literally the only reason we still hold on to this game

dum

Originally Posted by Ele

Why?

The purpose of the activity check is to make sure that official clans are active. If 6 people playing ingame qualifies a clan to be active what sense does it make that another larger and older clan who has 6 ingame active people fails that same test?

They are both producing the same amount of activity. Purely because the new system doesn't take into account inactive ranks, one clan now fails while the other passes. How is that more reasonable than my suggestion, which brings back a safeguard we had in the manual checks?

ALTERNATIVELY... You could always relent to the masses and award more points for forum activity. This ham-handed attempt at forcing clans ingame is really pissing people off.

Originally Posted by Ele

There was another major point. Inactive ranks...