That's the thing though, Perl, we've shifted our focus away from toribash to be a more social clan, both within toribash and in other games. Wapow got into the lead a long time ago, and we've just kinda left it at that. If we start warring more, so will they, either we'll catch up and pass them - only to be passed again when we get bored, or we can just stay here at 2nd. I don't really care if we're number 1, or 2, or 10, as long as I have people to talk to XD.