Originally Posted by uppkicker
1st: the glitch happens in all mods including aikido
2nd: I believe there is equal skill in both wushu and mushu and aikido, and toriboxing, and judo. It might be easier to dm in mushu, but remember: it's also more likely that YOU will be dm'd. So you still need skill to avoid hits.
So you are saying that different games require different amounts of skill? Sure, the learning curve might change, but when you're talking about strict multiplayer matches in almost any mod the skill is equal in my mind.
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yes they do change the mode you must play,obviously you will need to avoid hits,however you dont really know WHEN you will get hited or where the hit will happen,wushu however need much more skill,isnt any hit that will make you win.
2 - joints dont change,but other configurations does,taekkyon and aikido for example,you will know when the kick comes and what to do,same in aikido but it will be completely different because of turnframes,and the force too.
i have been playing mushu for much time,and i must say that it is an extremely easy mod,and 75% of time you get luck on wins or dodges.
this is exality why i dont think mushu is a "pro mod":
-easy to get dms(touch for the win)
-if want to win just rush,or jump on opponent.
-you can skeet easy.
-head dont disqualify.
--silly stuff can happen and make as advantage for you.
mushu is just a fun-to-play mod,as well footmod or any instagib body parts mod
i preffer default and classic mods: tk,aikido,wushu,ninjutsu and erth tk
Last edited by victortb; Feb 21, 2016 at 12:59 AM.
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1-yes,we both can get dm'ed,this is what im saying:
being the fact we both will get dmed correct,the luckiest will win,no one knows what can happen after that,and hardly save,because the next turn as well you can get dmed(and relaxed).
2-read point 1
3-man,wushu dont even is possible to grab,how can skeet?
4-i didnt undestard
5-basically it was about me,so i dont really know.
2b - you're basically correct there
1b - the problem is before the hit,you dont know what comes,but have signs to know what can happen next,however isnt easy to know EXALITY where it goes.
next point is the defence and movement change:
lets suppose a punch is coming and you block with elbow:
-mushu: you blocked,however that hand moved to the side(without force),dismembering you,making you defence not so useful.(elbows arent like the other body parts in nushu)
-wushu: it can reduce alot of power,then making the punch weaker and dont dismembering you even if it touched a part of u.
(typing on phone is a hell)
being the fact we both will get dmed correct,the luckiest will win,no one knows what can happen after that,and hardly save,because the next turn as well you can get dmed(and relaxed).
2-read point 1
3-man,wushu dont even is possible to grab,how can skeet?
4-i didnt undestard
5-basically it was about me,so i dont really know.
2b - you're basically correct there
1b - the problem is before the hit,you dont know what comes,but have signs to know what can happen next,however isnt easy to know EXALITY where it goes.
next point is the defence and movement change:
lets suppose a punch is coming and you block with elbow:
-mushu: you blocked,however that hand moved to the side(without force),dismembering you,making you defence not so useful.(elbows arent like the other body parts in nushu)
-wushu: it can reduce alot of power,then making the punch weaker and dont dismembering you even if it touched a part of u.
(typing on phone is a hell)
Last edited by victortb; Feb 21, 2016 at 02:17 AM.
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Damn the discussion tho.
In my opinion what allows you to either win or lose is a set of diferent matters such as your skills, experience, your mood, and your opponent's skills/experience and mood. Sometimes when I am raging I cant even move my tori properly.
An other thing that we should keep in mind when we talk about mushu is that most of it's regular players are low belts, why you may ask? well basically cause it has the same gravity with which u learn how to play (tutorials, jousting and stuff) (not for me tho I learnt how to play in lenshu, :P) and since its so easy to dm they find it fun so they keep playing.
A luck based mod would be jousting with its bigs tf and the fact that u start flying against your oponent (after a few matches u realize the best tecnic is to go as high as possible but then bout go as high as possible and crash in the middle).
Also I think that if something is easy to learn then it's easier to play, like toribash and a fps, the fps is easier to learn and easier to play. However this doesnt mean that its easier to master, and that is what makes the diference. I have seen some of the best mushu/wushu players and damn they are Godlike, one was so good that we couldnt beat him, I think it was noir he totally destroy us with his kicks and the other Damn he could block anything, but ANYTHING like rushes, skeets they were amazing at it.
I have never seen someone with a comparable lvl of skill in other mod (excluding spars and pk, most of us remember xioi and ofc swexx, etc)
In my opinion what allows you to either win or lose is a set of diferent matters such as your skills, experience, your mood, and your opponent's skills/experience and mood. Sometimes when I am raging I cant even move my tori properly.
An other thing that we should keep in mind when we talk about mushu is that most of it's regular players are low belts, why you may ask? well basically cause it has the same gravity with which u learn how to play (tutorials, jousting and stuff) (not for me tho I learnt how to play in lenshu, :P) and since its so easy to dm they find it fun so they keep playing.
A luck based mod would be jousting with its bigs tf and the fact that u start flying against your oponent (after a few matches u realize the best tecnic is to go as high as possible but then bout go as high as possible and crash in the middle).
Also I think that if something is easy to learn then it's easier to play, like toribash and a fps, the fps is easier to learn and easier to play. However this doesnt mean that its easier to master, and that is what makes the diference. I have seen some of the best mushu/wushu players and damn they are Godlike, one was so good that we couldnt beat him, I think it was noir he totally destroy us with his kicks and the other Damn he could block anything, but ANYTHING like rushes, skeets they were amazing at it.
I have never seen someone with a comparable lvl of skill in other mod (excluding spars and pk, most of us remember xioi and ofc swexx, etc)
1 - superior skilled will win if have chances,i have lost sometimes to white belts(no alts) in mushu due to luck,but i have tried the same with wushu,and results were different,they didnt won any matches.
you can dm you opponent's arm,however he can attack you with that arm,or it just fly on you if luck enought.
2 - yes,i still on my point,it wiĺl depends of the way you rushed and how you both got on the turn.
if both rush,but one gets with the leg close to opponent body(more skilled),he obviously will get decapited.
but it dont works two times if you know what to do.
3 - i said that skeet was easy because it is,look,anyone can do it,throw aiming and you opponent can dodge it,other mods dont have any way to do it.
4 - dont make sense to say that you can use the head to save yourself from Dq(however is possible if you grab exality in the neck),you basically can get off control,as well the opponent is an problem: he will still try to kill you or will run away.
5 - i can be with 75% of win ratio in mushu,but nearly 40% was basically luck,this is what im trying to say.
1b - opponent can trick you,remember that a slight error can make you move go wrong,and opponent aims different part that you expected.
point elbow; and if you cant dodge?,the only way will be a defence or "sacrifice",you will try to attack him,but his parts can touch you,making you get some dqs on yourself,then you must use the block,wich will need some luck to his arm dont touch other parts.
remember that i dont hate mushu,i just think its a mod made for fun,not to test skill or something.
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Onsola,Odlov is godlike at wushu,basicaĺly unbeatable.
same when i found moop first time in taekkyon server,he just got over 15 streaks and left,he and imsku are my inspiration to play taekkyon,alot more when he done taekkyon tutorials.
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well i know im bad as hell about discussing,this is what?,4th time i get on serious discussion i guess.
i preffer talking about more chill stuff,like about storys,creepypastas(just got posting over 9 pages of creepypasta chat),films or even casual chat.
but keep with mod discussion i guess
you can dm you opponent's arm,however he can attack you with that arm,or it just fly on you if luck enought.
2 - yes,i still on my point,it wiĺl depends of the way you rushed and how you both got on the turn.
if both rush,but one gets with the leg close to opponent body(more skilled),he obviously will get decapited.
but it dont works two times if you know what to do.
3 - i said that skeet was easy because it is,look,anyone can do it,throw aiming and you opponent can dodge it,other mods dont have any way to do it.
4 - dont make sense to say that you can use the head to save yourself from Dq(however is possible if you grab exality in the neck),you basically can get off control,as well the opponent is an problem: he will still try to kill you or will run away.
5 - i can be with 75% of win ratio in mushu,but nearly 40% was basically luck,this is what im trying to say.
1b - opponent can trick you,remember that a slight error can make you move go wrong,and opponent aims different part that you expected.
point elbow; and if you cant dodge?,the only way will be a defence or "sacrifice",you will try to attack him,but his parts can touch you,making you get some dqs on yourself,then you must use the block,wich will need some luck to his arm dont touch other parts.
remember that i dont hate mushu,i just think its a mod made for fun,not to test skill or something.
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Onsola,Odlov is godlike at wushu,basicaĺly unbeatable.
same when i found moop first time in taekkyon server,he just got over 15 streaks and left,he and imsku are my inspiration to play taekkyon,alot more when he done taekkyon tutorials.
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well i know im bad as hell about discussing,this is what?,4th time i get on serious discussion i guess.
i preffer talking about more chill stuff,like about storys,creepypastas(just got posting over 9 pages of creepypasta chat),films or even casual chat.
but keep with mod discussion i guess
Last edited by victortb; Feb 21, 2016 at 04:21 AM.
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Discussing is ok as long as its friendly. Well maybe changing topic? looks like we really got into this one lol. Ill wait to see what mat thinks about this tho.
Also I forgot to choose a winner for the logo thing :/ damn me and my shitty memory I guess I will make a votation, please pm when which of them do you think deserves to win, either mat or cata, their logos are a few pagesearlier, too lazy to put them there, I will choose once I have 5 votes.
Also I forgot to choose a winner for the logo thing :/ damn me and my shitty memory I guess I will make a votation, please pm when which of them do you think deserves to win, either mat or cata, their logos are a few pagesearlier, too lazy to put them there, I will choose once I have 5 votes.
