Fleshmon: I'm here not to be a dick, just trying to be constructive.
Honestly. HONESTLY. I'm trying to be honest. I'm not trying to be a dick so I really hope I don't come across as one.
Wapow is not associated with having good members
It's as simple as that. Of the members in Wapow, I want to say like 1 in 7 are actually good . This is why people hate WAPOW, not because you guys are dicks, but because you war SO MUCH and SO OFTEN and the ratio of good to bad players is simply depressing. I'm not saying WAPOW is a shit clan, all I'm saying is that you guys aren't "Good" by a conventional sense. This is generally off putting, especially for clans like Nitro and Obey, when that is the case. If you are going to get all salty about me saying WAPOW players as a general rule aren't exceptionally good, and rely more on constant and relentless wars, refer to the "New Clan Point System" thread, where Krulls consistently argues that Clans should be based off of their ability to work together, instead of, as I said before, conventionally "Good" players. I'm not trying to bad mouth Krulls, naturally he would try to defend the position of his clan.
All I'm trying to say is you guys achieved rank 1 in Toribash clans in a very.. unique way. Thats why you are generally disliked. Sure, sometimes the shit you guys say is taken negatively, but shit happens. I honestly think Wapow is negatively received because of the methods you chose to reach your position.
Honestly. HONESTLY. I'm trying to be honest. I'm not trying to be a dick so I really hope I don't come across as one.
Wapow is not associated with having good members
It's as simple as that. Of the members in Wapow, I want to say like 1 in 7 are actually good . This is why people hate WAPOW, not because you guys are dicks, but because you war SO MUCH and SO OFTEN and the ratio of good to bad players is simply depressing. I'm not saying WAPOW is a shit clan, all I'm saying is that you guys aren't "Good" by a conventional sense. This is generally off putting, especially for clans like Nitro and Obey, when that is the case. If you are going to get all salty about me saying WAPOW players as a general rule aren't exceptionally good, and rely more on constant and relentless wars, refer to the "New Clan Point System" thread, where Krulls consistently argues that Clans should be based off of their ability to work together, instead of, as I said before, conventionally "Good" players. I'm not trying to bad mouth Krulls, naturally he would try to defend the position of his clan.
All I'm trying to say is you guys achieved rank 1 in Toribash clans in a very.. unique way. Thats why you are generally disliked. Sure, sometimes the shit you guys say is taken negatively, but shit happens. I honestly think Wapow is negatively received because of the methods you chose to reach your position.
*dear GOD
This whole mess was not wt i needed for breakfast..... .
1# of all, how the gd dmn fkn fk did we end up defending our self against just these accusations ?
I joined this clan just because I found the members friendly and mature ingame.
The thread about the rude member was handled respectfully and fair, the (insane booooring) youtubevid are not a good image on us, normaly even i watch my language. The guy are immature but are not actually doing any harm. The fact that both of these guys are not to be found on our memberslist makes it kind of irrelevant.
We all knew for ourselfs if we bending the rules of good behaving, we all know that its not acceptable and will get in line at ones ore out of both the clan and the tb community if not.
As a general a well known clan will get some accusations, but we can handle that, cus we know our members got our back.
I am my brothers keeper_by representing the family proudly.
If you think im yaping nonsense heres the bottom line:
I think this unpopularity are unfair and if it is, its no problem. We rice above the accusations.
But if its any reason to feel guilty, then you go feel guilt, awful guilt, sink trough the ground in anguish, then get yourself together, improve and deliver, the only reason to continue living are to improve.
If you think you are good enough in all ways, just go kill yourself, cus noone are !
To the idea of kicking ppl, I will not have it. As pointed out already: we are family and you can not kick out family members. You stick to them and help them through the ruff times.
But then again you kick they`re ass if needed.
So from now we all going to be so over the top friendly that it hurts. We can not live whit dirt in our faces.
Even if just you are a all good contributor, and this not concerns you, now you go 10 times nicer on the chats n threads, cus now we are mending a wound together.
BWT; when we are at it, all constructive and honest: How come we got only about 3-5 new posts a day, and threads can go up thill a week wht no response, WHEN WE COUNT ABOUT 30 MEMBERS
Still not into kicking members, but we dont need more before we can handle wht we got.
Lets make a good soup, stop watering it out and let it boil for a while !
This whole mess was not wt i needed for breakfast..... .
1# of all, how the gd dmn fkn fk did we end up defending our self against just these accusations ?
I joined this clan just because I found the members friendly and mature ingame.
The thread about the rude member was handled respectfully and fair, the (insane booooring) youtubevid are not a good image on us, normaly even i watch my language. The guy are immature but are not actually doing any harm. The fact that both of these guys are not to be found on our memberslist makes it kind of irrelevant.
We all knew for ourselfs if we bending the rules of good behaving, we all know that its not acceptable and will get in line at ones ore out of both the clan and the tb community if not.
As a general a well known clan will get some accusations, but we can handle that, cus we know our members got our back.
I am my brothers keeper_by representing the family proudly.
If you think im yaping nonsense heres the bottom line:
I think this unpopularity are unfair and if it is, its no problem. We rice above the accusations.
But if its any reason to feel guilty, then you go feel guilt, awful guilt, sink trough the ground in anguish, then get yourself together, improve and deliver, the only reason to continue living are to improve.
If you think you are good enough in all ways, just go kill yourself, cus noone are !
To the idea of kicking ppl, I will not have it. As pointed out already: we are family and you can not kick out family members. You stick to them and help them through the ruff times.
But then again you kick they`re ass if needed.
So from now we all going to be so over the top friendly that it hurts. We can not live whit dirt in our faces.
Even if just you are a all good contributor, and this not concerns you, now you go 10 times nicer on the chats n threads, cus now we are mending a wound together.
BWT; when we are at it, all constructive and honest: How come we got only about 3-5 new posts a day, and threads can go up thill a week wht no response, WHEN WE COUNT ABOUT 30 MEMBERS
Still not into kicking members, but we dont need more before we can handle wht we got.
Lets make a good soup, stop watering it out and let it boil for a while !
Last edited by hazelbud; May 30, 2015 at 11:03 AM.
Reason: more statements (hazels all worked up now....)!*2
[WAPOW] "uhhh......no, Commissar we cant be sure yet _but it looks like he was killed by a hazelblunt object"
Yes we did use to war like it was going out of style and we didn't think we are the best clan and we do know how good of clans tgs, obey, nitro, alpha and many more clans are.
Another thing is that we do win more wars than we lose now and we still do war quite a lot but we do it for fun and as a team because as wapow we are a great team and a family as well and yes we can still improve on our clan as a whole but it still takes time.
Another thing is that we do win more wars than we lose now and we still do war quite a lot but we do it for fun and as a team because as wapow we are a great team and a family as well and yes we can still improve on our clan as a whole but it still takes time.
Im going to be as transparent as I can here. I've left WAPOW before because of immature members, and refused to join back until things changed. And here I am, after a break from being clan-less (and being in [Meta] for a short while) because I saw / had proof that people changed. And they indeed changed a lot, there is this little group of people that is around 14-16 years old that have an excuse to be immature, we've all been like them at some point. So immaturity isn't the problem as far as I can see.
Regarding to the clan points and how often WAPOW wars. I've been in many wars in the past and we've always played it for fun. After finishing a war against Nitro, for example. We would have someone from *insert random clan here* in the room to ask us for a war. Which not everyone would agree to fight, but its better for the people that like warring that much to not lose that "war mentality" of not fucking up with stupid things. And that happens A LOT.
One of the WAPOW goals was to get to rank #1 after being inactive for a while. Krulls did an unbelievable and amazing job by getting us to where we are now. If people get mad / salty because we achieved one of our goals, then you can sit and wait for things to happen. Or you can play the game as its supposed to be played with the system that is implemented.
Still haven't seen a single /cry post anywhere about how childish is the 90% of this game community. Instead people love to hate others that work hard to achieve something.
Regarding to the clan points and how often WAPOW wars. I've been in many wars in the past and we've always played it for fun. After finishing a war against Nitro, for example. We would have someone from *insert random clan here* in the room to ask us for a war. Which not everyone would agree to fight, but its better for the people that like warring that much to not lose that "war mentality" of not fucking up with stupid things. And that happens A LOT.
One of the WAPOW goals was to get to rank #1 after being inactive for a while. Krulls did an unbelievable and amazing job by getting us to where we are now. If people get mad / salty because we achieved one of our goals, then you can sit and wait for things to happen. Or you can play the game as its supposed to be played with the system that is implemented.
Still haven't seen a single /cry post anywhere about how childish is the 90% of this game community. Instead people love to hate others that work hard to achieve something.
Story from a different game.
Last edited by Sh00; May 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM.
Another thing is that the people that apparently hate us shouldn't be giving abuse instead trying to help us improve to earn their respect because toribash is a community and that's why we have clans to put in a bit more fun and competiveness and instead of hating clans for reasons we should try to help them to improve the community of toribash.
Last edited by Lamby; May 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM.
